[Jarek]

Jarek, I have trouble understanding your writing, which is quite different

As for the idea that a dog shouldn't be inside because it has so much fur? There is no such thing as a dog that sheds too much to be an inside dog.

If you're saying this because you think their thick fur coat makes them overheat inside the home, that never happens unless you keep your house at 90F or something. If you're saying this because of how much they shed, that just means its a personal problem you have with dog fur, not the dog's fault. Dog fur around the house is part of owning a dog. If you don't want a dog that sheds so much, don't get that breed of dog, simple as that. Their grooming requirements (and your vacuuming requirements) are just as important as their exercise needs. Its so sad to see people ignore that and say "Oh, I'll just make them live outside" JUST because of their fur.

Luananeko now I take more time properly with care to write and I think to my self you understand from me more maybe. I tell to you sorry my english is bad but I learn english 6 month now and I think to my self when I read post from forum it help make my english beter. but I tell to you I dont have problem with dog hair. I brush dinar evry day out side of home same like I comb my hair every day this is good care for dog. she have good coat and thick and have 3 level of diferent fur. this breed dog breeder tell to me coat is design for all weather but not good when weather is hot. he tell to me also dog not much like to be in side to home. this is fact of matter I know also because dinar ask from me to go out side of home in morning time and sty all day but not when I take her to walk. I do this 3 long walk every day. now I tell to you this fact of matter when dinar is in side to home for to o long time she sweat and pant and this is same like stress for dog. I see she dont be happy because in side to home to ohot to her. but she dum dog because she stay by my bed side all night time and I think to my self this is strange fact of matter if she like so much to be out side from home.
Now I tell toy ou this fact of matter also breeder tell to me in night time sarplaninac is serios dog because night time sarplaninac rule dark and watch evry thing and listen for every thing. sarplaninac night time dog with eyes same like cat. this fact of matter make me think to my self if this fact of matter true why dinar sleep by side of my bed on floor if sarplaninac guard watch hours of dark. I think to my self maybe expert not always right.
Jarek

 

[Esme]

Luananeko now I take more time properly with care to write and I think to my self you understand from me more maybe. I tell to you sorry my english is bad but I learn english 6 month now and I think to my self when I read post from forum it help make my english beter. but I tell to you I dont have problem with dog hair. I brush dinar evry day out side of home same like I comb my hair every day this is good care for dog. she have good coat and thick and have 3 level of diferent fur. this breed dog breeder tell to me coat is design for all weather but not good when weather is hot. he tell to me also dog not much like to be in side to home. this is fact of matter I know also because dinar ask from me to go out side of home in morning time and sty all day but not when I take her to walk. I do this 3 long walk every day. now I tell to you this fact of matter when dinar is in side to home for to o long time she sweat and pant and this is same like stress for dog. I see she dont be happy because in side to home to ohot to her. but she dum dog because she stay by my bed side all night time and I think to my self this is strange fact of matter if she like so much to be out side from home.
Now I tell toy ou this fact of matter also breeder tell to me in night time sarplaninac is serios dog because night time sarplaninac rule dark and watch evry thing and listen for every thing. sarplaninac night time dog with eyes same like cat. this fact of matter make me think to my self if this fact of matter true why dinar sleep by side of my bed on floor if sarplaninac guard watch hours of dark. I think to my self maybe expert not always right.
Jarek

Maybe she feels more capable of guarding you if she is by your side at night.

 

[Jarek]

Maybe she feels more capable of guarding you if she is by your side at night.

Esme I think to my self this is not true fact of matter. dinar sleep all night time she dont guard. some time she wake me because she snore like old man snore and some time when I get out from my bed she still sleep to her back with all leg s up in air same like she is dead. she dont guard from in side to home and I think to my self is true fact of matter expert not always right.
eg sample expert tell to me sarplaninac dont like stranger to home but I see dinar like other dog bark first and happy to see them second. I see her big smile and she think to her self people come to home to see her.
expert tell to me sarplaninac dont let stranger move from place in home and guard them all time but dinar dont not care for any thing but stroke and fuss. sometime I think to my self maybe expert only expert from book but problem is book never change but dog always change.
Jarek

 

[Plushie]

Thanks all for your input. It just frustrates me when someone off-handedly mentions that they keep their dog outside (ESPECIALLY on Yahoo Answers) and then everyone jumps on them and calls out the abuse card without really looking at the whole situation first. xD
Then again there are also lots of outside (and also inside but way more outside) dogs who aren't taken care of very well. This seems to be true for a lot of cases so that's probably why most people generalize all of those who keep outside dogs as people who don't really care.

 

[ColliesRock]

Outdoor dogs have become a lot less common since I was younger. It is easier for people to ignore dogs that are outdoors, especially nowadays with computers, video games and everything else. I don't like it when outdoors dogs are loose and running around the neighborhood. They are annoying at my house.

I suppose if your providing a dog enough attention, it is alright to have an outdoor dog, but few people do this with outdoor dogs.

 

[pawzaddict]

but few people do this with outdoor dogs.

Man you guys make me play devils advocate here lol

I understand you assume this, but please know you cant tell just by looking at a dog as you drive/walk by. Its not a fair assumption as I grew up with outdoor dogs and most my family has outdoor dogs and everyone is cared for greatly. What about the people who lock their dogs in crates inside all the time? Or those who are never home (they work and go out a lot), what about farmers with herd guarding dogs who stay outside 24/7, etc. Now if you want to say you know a few people who seem to ignore their dog then its different than saying few people with outdoor dogs take care of those dogs.

Sorry its a touchy subject with me as I see no issue with it and was raised with "thats where the dogs live".

 

[natenqen]

This is the way I see it. If you know you are doing your best to make sure your dogs are both happy physically and mentally, than you should not have anyone tell you otherwise. Your friends know you take care of your dogs right? Don't let some strangers put you down just because they think you are a bad owner for having an dog outside.

Many people think a dog who is inside is taken well cared of, but as others have pointed out, they are not. Left in cages for long periods of time, ect. If it comes down to it and they keep bothering you. Tell them that they must be just as bad as you because they have their dogs inside all the time with little to no interaction. Always locked up and probably beaten every day for little harmless things. (I find if you throw the same thing back to them, they will come back with you don't know how I keep my dog and I am a good owner than you can say, that's the same as me.)

Most mushers have their dogs teathered to a post in their yard. The only time they will get exercise or interaction is by feeding, water, or training, but the mushers I know will spend at least 10 to 15 minutes with each dog alone outside. So people better put down the mushers also because they keep their dogs outside too, at least yours insn't teathered like the mushers do.

 

[weeniedog]

Man you guys make me play devils advocate here lol

I understand you assume this, but please know you cant tell just by looking at a dog as you drive/walk by. Its not a fair assumption

The thing is, if I saw a dog in a fenced backyard, that's one thing, and I wouldn't make assumptions. Sadly, I don't see many situations like that, I mostly see dogs chained to a dog house in the middle of winter with hardly any space to move, let alone get any exercise, or in a tiny outdoor kennel, and it makes me sad.

 

[ColliesRock]

What do you define as an outdoor dog? I've noticed some people say their dog is outdoor dog even though it is indoors some of the day. There are many situations which could be defined as an outdoor dog. One is a dog that allowed to run loose throughout the neighborhood, and another one is a dog that is chained up outside at least some length of time or 24/7, and another is a dog that is loose in an enclosed yard.

I probably generalized a bit too much in my last post. I would estimate that 90% of outdoor dogs do not get enough interaction with their owners or exercise. I will admit some people do care for them properly. My neighbor used to have a lab that was strictly outdoors and he cared for the dog well.

Personally, I don't understand why someone would want to have an outdoor dog. Do people keep dogs outside because of allergies? Because of hair? Because of mud, dirt, etc.? Why get a dog if any of those bother you?

 

[Plushie]

What do you define as an outdoor dog?

Personally my dog is let loose in the fenced backyard. Though I think the general consensus is a dog's whose primary residence is outside, whether it's in the neighborhood, backyard, chained, or anywhere not in the house/under a roof/with 4 walls surrounding it.
But, if your dog is loose in the neighborhood/unrestrained otherwise...is it really YOUR dog? o_o; Anyone could pick it up.

I would estimate that 90% of outdoor dogs do not get enough interaction with their owners or exercise. I will admit some people do care for them properly.

If I may ask, what category do I and others like me fall into then?

Why get a dog if any of those bother you?

Because they can keep it outside, yet not be bothered by it in the house, or at least that's my parents' reason. Think about it from an outside dog owner's perspective. If they don't consider it abusive, then there's nothing wrong with it at least in their mind, so they get a dog.

 

[Esme]

I do have to say that I'm sorry your parents feel that way. It must be hard since you would like to have her in the house. I guess I'm lucky my parents realized that I'm so stubborn it wouldn't have been worth the fight to try and keep mine outside, or they would have.

 

[Plushie]

I do have to say that I'm sorry your parents feel that way. It must be hard since you would like to have her in the house. I guess I'm lucky my parents realized that I'm so stubborn it wouldn't have been worth the fight to try and keep mine outside, or they would have.

Aughh, you are so lucky. D:<
I'm still trying to convince them though. It's just very hard because, like me, my dad is super stubborn. The insane thing is that all of HIS dogs in Vietnam used to be inside dogs, but now that we're in the states and he and my mom are determined to have a "clean" house, our dog stays outside. ...For now.

 

[Esme]

Aughh, you are so lucky. D:<
I'm still trying to convince them though. It's just very hard because, like me, my dad is super stubborn. The insane thing is that all of HIS dogs in Vietnam used to be inside dogs, but now that we're in the states and he and my mom are determined to have a "clean" house, our dog stays outside. ...For now.

With your dad being stubborn too it would make it harder. I'm really not sure how you could convince them since everyone is different, maybe saying that almost everyone here keeps their dogs in the house so it's normal, but it is hard to keep the balance between making them mad and them just saying" Okay fine let the dog in". I hope you can either convince them or find your own place soon. But atleast I think she knows she's loved and well taken care of.

 

[Plushie]

In our area a lot of people keep their dogs outside, mainly because the weather isn't bad, and because since most people here are Asian they like clean houses. (Joking on the last one. Though I guess it could be true. xD)
And yes, it's going to be hard to convince them that the house isn't going to smell like someone planted a stink bomb inside and the walls aren't going to be covered in fur and pee.

 

[Esme]

Well if she is house trained then that should be easy to show them and with the fur part you could just try getting her groomed and having her smelling clean (like shampoo) when they are around and honestly I think that dogs who are bathed regularly or wiped down don't smell bad at all or you can even buy those doggy perfumes so she smells pretty. And I don't think it's just the Asian culture since my husbands family is from Mexico and they all keep their dogs outside 24/7 except for my brother and sister in law, who I think I have converted. LOL

 

[Esme]

Or you can just let her be an outside dog for now, since you still care about her and take care of her. Either way I think it's fine.

 

[Plushie]

I'm going to keep trying to convince my parents, but I won't be completely bummed out if they say no.

 

[Esme]

Sounds good to me

 

[ColliesRock]

I didn't read your original post until now, Plushie. It sounds like your dog is happy and well cared for.

 

[Plushie]

Lol! It's okay, I wrote a handful. Tl;dr, girl gets fussy over people stereotyping all outside dog owners as abusive.