I have mixed feelings. Standard and miniature poodles were originally bird dogs. Therefore, I'm not completely horrified by the idea of breeding them to a retriever or spaniel. At least the parent breeds have complementary drives. Assuming the sire and dam are properly selected, the offspring should be temperamentally sound.

What does horrify me is that many doodle breeders are careless in their selection of breeding stock and over-promise the merits of the puppies.

 

Speaking as a DVM, "poodles" are overrated and there are much better bird dogs. Moreover, there's breed intelligence and individual dog intelligence. "Poodles" do not have a monopoly on either. As for these "doodle" mongrels spreading across the country like a pathogen, I would love nothing better than to see all of these backyard breeding hucksters shut down and all of these mongrels die out and every shelter dog saved.

 

I think they're too popular, and not nearly enough care is being put into screening for temperament and health during the breeding process.

I personally think they're going to have a pretty similar arc to Cockers - Cockers are supposed to be really friendly, biddable, sociable dogs; they were once, and many still are - but they rose to popularity really fast, became incredibly overbred, and as a result there are a lot out there that have some loose screws. It's incredibly unfortunate, but when people just churn out puppies for the sake of puppies and a quick buck, it's what happens.

 

I think my biggest issues are with the thinking going around the breeding and hype of doodles.

No, the coat will not be guaranteed easier, allergy-friendly, or whatever.

There is no promised hybrid-vigor from poorly selected parents.

Genetics and reality do not guarantee a, "Best of both with none of the problems," because that is merely what you want.

They are not a breed. There are people working on making goldenxpoodle crosses a breed, but throwing a poodle with x does not make it a breed.

But, I don't mind the dogs themselves or their people as long as they aren't pushing marketing lies.

 

Doodles are a mixed breed dog that is becoming more and more popular. There are many different types of doodles, all of which are a mix between a poodle and another breed of dog. Doodles can be great family dogs because they are usually friendly, intelligent, and easy to train. They can also be good with children and other animals. However, not all doodles are the same, so it is important to do your research before you decide to get one. Some doodles may have health problems or be difficult to train. Overall, I think doodles make great family pets and are worth considering if you are looking for a new dog.

 

I love my poodle mix. I did embark and he is a big mix so I call him a muttadoodle. I understand the appeal of a non shedding dog. But, grooming gets expensive. I would not spend a lot of money for a mixed breed, you can find non shedding dogs at rescues if not a shelter.

cockapoos have been around a long time. But, the designer dog trend has exploded. Lots of doodles around here. Not a doodle, but puggles seem common, too, I don’t know what people have against poodles that they want to change them.

 

I don't think it's necessary that they have something against poodles, just that the non-shedding coat has a lot of appeal and they misguidedly think they can get ------ dog with a coat that doesn't shed.

The hype, expense and misinformation are the things that bother me the most about doodles. Not anything to do with the dogs themselves or their people.

 

I have a Golden Doodle. She has a really easy coat to take care of, never matts. As I clip my own dogs I keep her fairly short in the summer and longer in the winter. I really appreciate the non-shedding, two of my other dogs are Maltese Shih Tzu and do not shed either.

The Goldens are a nice breed but the amount of hair they shed is impossible. I think some people went overboard breeding everything to a Poodle for seemingly no other reason but they seemed to think everything would be non-shedding.

 

No, what you have is a homely mongrel from a backyard breeding huckster as there's no such breed as a "goldendoodle." As if that weren't bad enough, you have two repugnant ankle biters, who, nine times out of ten, are from backyard breeders/puppymills and both are ugly AF. Couldn't bring yourself to adopt a big, beautiful shelter dog or a real dog, like a Labrador or a Golden Retriever.

 

I don't really like them. The ones I've met just seem like they're 3 fries short of a happy meal.

 

Agreed. They have a high skin crawling factor and I cannot stand the sight of them.

 

My Golden Doodle has a great disposition, is really smart and did well in AGILITY before Covid and loved doing it. They are like most breeds and need the proper training.

 

its not that i hate the dogs, i hate the breeding

 

I personally like poodle mixed breeds because poodles and smart, they don't shed, and they like to swim! And I like swimming with my dogs so... yeah.

I have a corgi poodle pup and ya know how corgis shed a lot? Well I don't like shedding dogs so when I found this cheaper corgi poodle I couldn't resist! He likes water. has the face of a poodle but the body of a corgi and he is really smart

 

Hate to break it to you, but there’s no guarantee that a poodle x corgi pup won’t grow up to shed as much as the corgi parent. That’s the problem with poodle crosses (or any crosses with vastly different types of hair/fur), they could inherit the fur/hair type of one parent, the other parent, or an unruly mix of both.

 

I'm not a fan of doodle mixes ever tho my daughter and neighbors have them. One of neighbors daughter got a labradoodle as thought would not shed. Boy was she wrong as you can not wear light colors to your home or you will be covered in black hair.

 

More often than not, people who buy these mongrels from unethical opportunists are first time dog owners and/or the same people who have "teacup" (a marketing ploy to get the population to buy genetically flawed dogs) dogs or ankle biters from backyard breeders (those "lovely" folks who sell unhealthy lap dogs to pet stores with "doctored" papers). Give me a Labrador from a reputable and ethical breeder or a big, handsome shelter dog any day.

 

@DACVS
maybe the best way to join a forum isn't to suggest people's much loved pets are disgusting mutts and calling our members chumps. I don't know who crapped on your cornflakes this morning but please don't take it out on people here - we have a rule against rudeness.

I think you owe an apology to several people; @Kyllobernese in particular.

 

No one crapped on my cornflakes, dear heart, and I will not apologize to anyone. And "doodles" and "poo" mixes ARE mutts, they are not a breed of dog. They're nothing more than cash cows bred by opportunists who have jumped on the bandwagon when they realized the uninformed would buy the next trendy thing, in this case, dogs who should have never been born, let alone bred. I'm thinking about all the big, beautiful dogs going down each day in shelters across the country and people like this "kyllo" person who wouldn't deign to adopt a shelter dog. I'm thinking of THOSE dogs. How about YOU Joanne, do you think about them and the fates those beautiful dogs face? I make no apologies for how I feel about "doodles", "poos", mythical "teacup" dogs and ankle biters from backyard breeders and puppymills.

 

For the record, our view on breeding is actually that we support ethical breeding and dislike BYBs much like you do. We don't fundmentally disagree on the principals but I'm not going to allow you to continue to be rude to our members.

You were warned, you chose to ignore it. This isn't the forum for you.