[N2Th3Stars]

XD !! Thanks for the LuLz ScentHound, that picture is great

 

[Jarek]

Why not walk big dog in city. before sarplaninac I have caucasian. he always walk in city good by side of me. he weigh 90kilo and 80cm high. I weigh 65kilo and 160cm high no problem ever.

 

[GreatDaneMom]

Why not walk big dog in city. before sarplaninac I have caucasian. he always walk in city good by side of me. he weigh 90kilo and 80cm high. I weigh 65kilo and 160cm high no problem ever.

??? this isnt about how big the dog is, but that he definitely has issues when youre walking him that are potential dangerous....

 

[luckydogonline]

I lived on the sea front still very wild and sandy great place for all dogs to be free to run open to all - but now all that freedom is about to be changed especially for dog owners - because now of how the world is today – certain migrating birds are on the decrease so nesting has to be protected in this certain coastal sandy banks area - even though it’s a good 1/4 mile from where most folks walk their dogs – Dogs are now banned in this vicinity – Goes to show no matter dogs in the City or Dogs in the wild as far as open spaces go its getting increasingly difficult for dogs to have real freedom what they love best and that is free to run - after all they are built for running - hello four legs and all Lol – Yes more rules for all dog owners to be aware and followed or a fine is often imposed - £80 fine if dog not on a leash in my area with posters everywhere - now that hurts -

??? this isnt about how big the dog is, but that he definitely has issues when youre walking him that are potential dangerous....

 

[Jules785]

wow O_O That thing is as big as my horse!

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I think it is EATING a horse...

Jokes aside, of course one can keep big dogs in a city, but with experience, training, more training, socializing, a good sane temperament, more training, more socializing.
It isn't for a beginner.
It isn't always in the best interest of a dog.

Great Danes, they can make good city dogs, and so can certain Mastiffs. Large sighthounds tend to do well in cities.
Flock guardians (as I think this one is?) may need much more exercise than leash walking can provide, and they need a lot of socializing, so they don't see other dogs as 'intruding wolves'.
Any slip ups with this type dog, and you have a tragedy on your hands.
At "best" it is only another dog that gets bitten... at worst a child.

Please think several times more before you bring home a pup like that.

 

[Jarek]

Flock guardians (as I think this one is?) may need much more exercise than leash walking can provide, and they need a lot of socializing, so they don't see other dogs as 'intruding wolves'.
Any slip ups with this type dog, and you have a tragedy on your hands.
At "best" it is only another dog that gets bitten... at worst a child.

Please think several times more before you bring home a pup like that.

Jules785 I keep guardian sarplaninac she never see other dog like wolf she like all dogs and stranger dog also.
I know also this fact of matter also sarplaninac never have problem for children they like small children because they have natural interest in them always.
In my country and other europe countrys people keep this breed dog no attack record make by sarplaninac or caucasian to children but many tell to you is true from other breed dog. labrador retriver gsd rotwiler bullterrier doberman and small breed dog also.
My uncle have same breed dog caucasian all his life. he never want other breed dog. I live in to his house sometime when I am just small boy and never no problem. I sleep some time in dog house all night also when is summer and dogs also never no problem. then artur die on me in night time I never get up in morning because he so heavy.
I keep sarplaninac now and she be angry to some people on my street but never angry to children and I think to myself why is this matter.

 

[Jules785]

Jarek,
keeping any dog with teeth around people can be trouble, and the bigger the dog the bigger the potential trouble.

Dog attacks on people (no matter adult or child) lead to breed specific legislation in the US. Just ask anyone who has a 'pit bull' or type dog... it means you cannot own such a dog in some municipalities, in others you cannot get insurance for your home when you do, and everywhere it is very expensive. (In some places pit bull is any dog that looks like one, or might have similar 'fighting' breeds in it, which is determined by people who know very little about dogs, as in, "it is brindle, thus it is a pit bull").

That being said, of course someone with experience and dedication can handle any dog in a city, as long as there is emphasis placed on selection for temperament, training, socialization, and so forth.
It is most likely easier in Europe than in the US, where dogs are not part of normal public life.
(Dogs cannot be on public transportation, are not allowed in many public venues, from most buildings to parks. There are open air things like flea markets/farmer's markets that prohibit dogs, and I cannot take mine to Home Depot, a lumber store. Further people here are not savvy about dogs, approach without permission and the dog owner can get sued for a dog bite by a trespasser or burglar, even if the dog defended you!).

I have had a dog in Europe, and it was rather different.

If you love a breed of dog, you want to be sure that people own this breed are responsible owners and handlers of such a dog, or else they may ruin it for you and the breed. That's how it is on this side of the world.

 

[Jarek]

Jules785 I think to my self america not dog frendly place and make problem to dog keeper always.
some time I am angry always because law make life for dog terible life and I dont know for why this is reason. I think to my self maybe some day people dont know any more what dog look like and I think to myself also they google picture.
Jarek

 

[Jules785]

Jules785 I think to my self america not dog frendly place and make problem to dog keeper always.
some time I am angry always because law make life for dog terible life and I dont know for why this is reason. I think to my self maybe some day people dont know any more what dog look like and I think to myself also they google picture.
Jarek

Jarek, it IS different to have a dog here (than in Europe).

A lot of people live very far removed from nature, and they are used to instant gratification.
Training a dog, taking care of it for its whole life, providing for it, every day, those are concepts that escape people who have marriages lasting a few months and don't pay child support and buy everything on credit...

Not that there are not wonderful dog owners/breeders/trainers here, there are.
But there are also a lot of people who never even take the time to do it right, and who have dogs when taking care of a goldfish is too challenging for them.

So my advice for the prospective dog owner of a large guardian breed in a city was from the US perspective. I would rather have people think three times and end up with a good match (or even with a cat) than to hear a few months later that this dog has bitten someone, and is going to be destroyed as a vicious dog.

I should have explained that... location matters, not just in real estate.

 

[tankstar]

Old english sheep dog do well also but thats not on topic.

Considering that a OES is NOT a live stock guardian.

lol, you are the exact opposite of this guy.

LMAO this is great

 

[Jarek]

Considering that a OES is NOT a live stock guardian.

tankstar I tell to you this breed dog to be relative of russian sheep dog. same like ovcharka ovcarski nagasi owtcha. diferent word but mean same fact of matter. but I think to my self people know word ovcharka maybe. ovcharka russian word for guardian of flock. this breed dog sheep dog breed and call this dog guardian because he watch for sheep. sheep dog is guardian always.

 

[ScentHound]

Is everyone still talking about the dog/Bear hybrid.

 

[Jarek]

Is everyone still talking about the dog/Bear hybrid.

ScentHound I think to myself you post funny matter because dog and bear dont have off spring ever. my dictionary read 'hybrid' offspring of two animals. A thing produced by the interaction or crossbreeding of two unlike cultures, traditions, etc.
I think to my self this is not true matter of fact you post and imposible maybe. but I dont know.
Jarek

 

[ScentHound]

Yes, I am just having fun.
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[Gordon]

tankstar I tell to you this breed dog to be relative of russian sheep dog. same like ovcharka ovcarski nagasi owtcha. diferent word but mean same fact of matter. but I think to my self people know word ovcharka maybe. ovcharka russian word for guardian of flock. this breed dog sheep dog breed and call this dog guardian because he watch for sheep. sheep dog is guardian always.

Ralph and Sam agree.

 

[GreatDaneMom]

tankstar I tell to you this breed dog to be relative of russian sheep dog. same like ovcharka ovcarski nagasi owtcha. diferent word but mean same fact of matter. but I think to my self people know word ovcharka maybe. ovcharka russian word for guardian of flock. this breed dog sheep dog breed and call this dog guardian because he watch for sheep. sheep dog is guardian always.

she was talking about the old english sheepdog. and no, the old english sheepdog is NOT a livestock guardian, it is a herding dog.

 

[Jarek]

Ralph and Sam agree.

Gordon this is funny picture. I save this to my computer screen
Thank you Jarek

she was talking about the old english sheepdog. and no, the old english sheepdog is NOT a livestock guardian, it is a herding dog.

GreatDaneMom I tell to you sorry but I dont and can not agree with you qoute. in history from old days people want dog to guard sheep because of many many wolf on land. they breed from small herd dog like tatar dog almost same like caucasian. my granfather breed guardian dog same like his father breed guardian dog and his son. but I dont do same because I want some thing diferent. my uncle tell to me old english sheepdog just show dog now and breeder complicate dog and destroy strength of breed.
Jarek

 

[pawzaddict]

I heard that the OES is and/or was a guard dog.
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[GreatDaneMom]

I heard that the OES is and/or was a guard dog.
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they are hearding dogs frist. sometimes they are GUARD dogs, but not GUARDIAN dogs. there is a big difference.

and jarek- even if a dog were mostly bred for show now, it doesnt mean they are not hearding dogs.

go do some research on the breed on stop relying just on what your friends and family tell you. you will learn a lot more of the correct information.

 

[Jarek]

jarek
go do some research on the breed on stop relying just on what your friends and family tell you. you will learn a lot more of the correct information.

GreatDaneMom you post is not for respect. I tell to you my family breed guardian dog for many generation long in 1800 and you ignore post. I know what is guard dog and what is guardian dog. I am not a dum man and I am not rude for you when I write post.
Jarek