[alaeske]

I have recently purchased a Kai-Ken cross Aidi puppy (She is too young to take home as of yet as she is only 3 weeks old and i only have a very young puppy photo of her until this Friday so unfortunately can not provide photographs just yet)

Her mother was a black (Kuro-Tora) Kai-Ken, the father was a pure white Aidi.
My puppy is all black except a white patch on her chest and just under her chin.

Now i know Kai puppies are born a solid color and their brindle markings develop as they age, sometimes taking as long as five years before fully showing. Would there be a chance of her black becoming brindle as she is a mix or would she most likely stay black?

Thank you for reading/replying, if you do!

 

[Blue pup]

Well it depends, from what I know most kai mixes turn out brindle....

 

[alaeske]

Well it depends, from what I know most kai mixes turn out brindle....

That's great to know, i think it would suit her
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[avietar]

Wow, that is a really awesome mix you got there, bred from two rare dogs.

I think you need to research genetics if you want to know what the chance is of your dog becoming brindle. Brindle depend on recessive genes and is dominated by black (or so I've read). Since its mother was entirely black and its father was entirely white, there is little chance of your dog becoming a brindle if I'm being honest.
Then again, I'm not a pro at coat color genetics as of yet.

 

[alaeske]

Since its mother was entirely black and its father was entirely white, there is little chance of your dog becoming a brindle if I'm being honest.

Aww. I'll be happy either way, just interested to know. I'm researching a lot about both breeds, so i'll see how it goes.

Thanks

 

[KaiKenOwner]

Oh what an interesting mix? May I ask where you purchased such an amazing sounding pup?

The white spots are related to the Kai side. Does your Kai currently have any brindle showing? You would see some blond in the black?

 

[alaeske]

Oh what an interesting mix? May I ask where you purchased such an amazing sounding pup?

The white spots are related to the Kai side. Does your Kai currently have any brindle showing? You would see some blond in the black?

Hi, i purchased her from someone in Amsterdam =)
From what i have noticed she has no brindle showing, just blask and the white patchess.
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[KaiKenOwner]

I could see my Kais brindle coming through in his 5 week pictures. He is a Kurotora and has two white spots, one on his neck and one on his chest. This is a common trait.

Kais can change their brindle over the first few years, but from what I've seen in my two it's very subtle. My male is 28 months and has had some minor changes over the past six months, a few more blonde hairs on the face and extremities. His tail is also turning red. This has happened in the past two weeks.

My female's red stripes/undertones turned white in the past year. She will be 3 in November.

Kais are amazing dogs and are very rare outside of Japan. Are you sure your dog is half Kai? Was this an intentional mixing of two breeds? I hope you don't mind me asking, I'm a very nosey person.

 

[alaeske]

Kais are amazing dogs and are very rare outside of Japan. Are you sure your dog is half Kai? Was this an intentional mixing of two breeds? I hope you don't mind me asking, I'm a very nosey person.

Be as nosey as you wish! I far from mind! I have seen the supposed parents. I say supposed, as i honestly haven't a clue if they really were. Just because the puppy looks so odd xD Although i don't know what a mix of the two SHOULD look like. I was trying to find a decent photograph but i currently can't find any - i will look tomorrow because i'm all tucked up in bed

She is very small for her age, or so i'd assume, (assuming she is a Kai cross Aidi, like they claim i would have expected her to be a LOT bigger)

The only thing I've really noticed with her (that i am very ecstatic about!) is that her tail curls over her back, like with the Kai breed, but i also know it's a common trait of many breeds. I've always wanted a dog with a tail like that haha.

I do also believe the breeding was accidental as the owner had a pair of each breed.

 

[SpicyBulldog]

I think you need to research genetics if you want to know what the chance is of your dog becoming brindle. Brindle depend on recessive genes and is dominated by black (or so I've read). Since its mother was entirely black and its father was entirely white, there is little chance of your dog becoming a brindle if I'm being honest.
Then again, I'm not a pro at coat color genetics as of yet.

This is a great answer but one thing to consider is that dominant black and brindle are on the same locus. The dam could potentionally have an allele for each. The black would mask her brindle but she would produce some brindle pups.

Anyway I love Kai Ken but there are only a couple breeders in the USA that I know of anyway.
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