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has he had a veterinary diagnostic exam - on this issue?
What did the vet say?

personally, i would ask my GP vet for a referral to a vet-dermatologist -
yes, they're costly in comparison to a GP, however U will save the dog possibly months or even years of ineffective treatment, or misdiagnoses.

All small-animal vets are required to know "all about" a NUMBER of species - their normal range of homeostatic vital signs, contagious diseases / incubation periods / symptoms / prognoses, birth defects, developmental problems of the skeleton / muscles / nerves / organs / brain / skin / CNS, & more.

They CANNOT know "all about skin" - which is where dogs have all their *mast cells*, the makers of histamine, which react to allergens & irritants in the environs, or after they're inhaled / ingested / touched.
Everything that dogs react badly to, or over-react to, pretty much causes wicked skin problems. :(

Please let us know the vet's Dx & prognosis? - the poor fella looks so miserable, i'm sorry he's suffering. :headshake: Hopefully he will be successfully treated, & healing VERY soon.

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also to add:
he's a self-colored dog, of a dilute pigment, with a Dudley nose - he may have auto-immune problems, I'm sorry to say, which can contribute to his skin problems.

His paws look TERRIBLE, & that elbow, with its thickened skin, defo makes it clear this a chronic issue, not a passing thing.

How long has he had this? -- Months? Years?
Have U had him since puphood? // How old is he now?

What sort of dishes does he eat & drink from?
PLASTIC DERMATITIS can cause severe reactions in susceptible dogs - plain heat-tempered glass [such as Pyrex], U-S made pottery or porcelain [with lead-free glazes], Corelle glass, & Stainless Steel [ often abbreviated "S/S"] are all good, safe, non-reactive choices.

Do U use laundry softener in any form?
Not just dryer sheets; it can be in the detergent itself, in a rinse agent, or it might be a spray that U use on damp clothes in the dryer, B4 turning it on.

What part of the U-S / what country are U in?
Exposure to pollen [seasonally or year-round], certain airborne irritants, some insect bites, etc, depend upon where U live.

these are only some of the Qs a vet or dermatologist would ask - along with what does he eat, where does he walk [on what surfaces - tanbark, dirt paths, paving, grass, rough pasture, brush?... ], are there any noxious plants in the yard or house, & more.

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We've had him since uphold yes and he's now 2 years old. He's always ate normal dry dog food from. Regular plastic bowl. He seems happy other than itching a lot it started this past summer. Its Jan 2018 now so I'd say about July of 2017 is when it started. He lost hair aeound his eyes elbows and paws. His hair will start coming back around his eyes but stays thin. His shin is very sensitive, he can bump himself on anything rough and it will cause a scrape and bleed a little. We've tried everything to wash him in, given him antibiotics, antihistamine you name it. Can't afford the dermatology vet. Anymore ideas on what it could be or how to help him
 

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Has he been seen by a vet for this skin / hair problem?

We've had him since [puphood?], yes, and he's now 2 years old.
He's always eaten normal dry dog food from [puphood? // Brand-name X? // Other?].

[He eats from a] regular plastic bowl.

He seems happy - other than itching a lot! - it started this past summer. It's Jan 2018 now, so I'd say about July of 2017, it started.
He lost hair around his eyes, elbows, & paws. His hair will start coming back around his eyes, but [the haircoat] stays thin. His skin is very sensitive, he can bump himself on anything rough, and his skin will [be scraped], and bleed a little.

We've tried everything to wash him in, [he's been] given antibiotics, antihistamine, you name it.
We can't afford a k9 dermatologist.

Any ideas on what it could be, or how to help him?
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1st thing: I'd dump the plastic bowl / bowls, & replace them, preferably with heat-tempered glass [Pyrex or similar] which is dishwasher-safe, sturdy, smooth, won't retain bacteria, & is very durable, as well as hypoallergenic.

Also, I'd get rid of any plastic toys - if he has anything he rolls or mouths [a Buster Cube, plastic water bottles or soda bottles to crunch & fetch, a hollow plastic BALL...] or household things that he lies on, or walks on, made of plastic - I'd get rid of it, or make it completely inaccessible to the dog.
So if U have a welcome-mat or mud-mat of Astro-turf, i'd replace it with coco-mat or a washable cotton bathmat or a polyester braided AKA "rag" rug... anything not plastic. Plastic-covered waterproof dog-mattress, plastic dog-house, molded plastic 'lounge' for the dog to lie on - give it away, sell it, recycle it [the city of Boston recycles hard plastics, now].

If he's NOT "allergic" to plastic / doesn't have plastic dermatitis, by stopping his exposure, U haven't caused any problems; it's a low-cost, low-risk choice.
Instead, U've narrowed the diagnostic possibilities, U've reduced the chance that he'll chew [or break] & swallow plastic pieces, & in any case, U've improved the hygiene of his food bowls: plastic is porous; it absorbs odors, gets surface scratches that harbor inaccessible bacteria, etc; after a few weeks' or months' use, plastic cannot be completely sanitized, even in the dishwasher, b'c of those scratches.


U still haven't said if U've taken him to a GP vet for a diagnostic work-up on this skin / hair issue - if U did, what did the vet say?
Was it the vet who Rx'ed antibiotics, various antihistamines, special shampoos, & so on? -- Or did U just ask other pet-owners for advice, or look on-line for things that had "worked for other ppl's dogs"? // Trying things at random can make the symptoms of an unknown problem worse; U really need a vet's help to Dx the cause. :(

Important Q:
did any vet do a skin-scraping for Demodex canis or Sarcoptes scabiei [variety either hominis or canis]?

the reverse-raccoon mask of balding skin around his eyes is similar to the after-effect of demodicosis - an overpopn of Demodex mites, which usually happens in yuong-puppyhood, not in adult dogs with NORMAL immune systems.

https://vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/mange-demodectic-in-dogs


https://www.petmd.com/blogs/fullyvetted/2012/feb/sarcoptic_vs_demodectic_mange-12823


A urine test to determine if he has a metabolic disorder, & possibly a culture incubated from samples of affected hair & skin areas [to I-D any bacterial infection], would also be good tests - which aren't terribly expensive.

Sarcoptic mange photos
Sarcoptic mange in dogs - Google Search


Demodectic mange photos
Demodex mange in dogs - Google Search

An overview of metabolic diseases in pets:
Metabolic


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