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What do you guys think this little boy is?!

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Hello everyone. I'm new here just want to pick some of your guys brains... So 2 weeks ago I picked up a "pure bred" Lab with AKC papers to prove it, so I thought.. When I first picked him up the breeder told me she was selling them for her sister (which was weird to me) but I saw a cute puppy and thought whatever with it. When I first saw him the brown on his paws didn't seem normal with it being a full bred Lab, but she told me he will grow into his normal all chocolate color and I thought okay she's knows what she's talking about, gave her my money and left. A couple days later my boys vet visit was here. Mind you his AKC papers said his DOB was 10-26-15.. Brought him in seemed healthy for the most part. I told my vet his DOB and he looked at me weird and said no way... Which would make my dog 17 weeks old. He said he is not even CLOSE to 17 weeks old. So then it all got kinda weird. He also said no way is he a pure bred Lab. So basically this "breeder" just gave me fake papers and lied to me... All in all what kinda pup do you think he is? Thanks in advance guys!

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The picture is kind of hard to see... he definitely looks like he has lab in him but not purebred. I would call the 'breeder' and ask for money back... maybe it was an oops breeding? Did he check out healthy at the vet? He's super cute! :)
No she knows what's she's doing, trying to hide where her "sister" lives. Screams puppy mill too me
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Labs can have the tan point as well as brindle (in points) patterns. It's considered a mismark (faulty color or pattern), but doesn't necessarily make the dog not purebred. Because it's a recessive trait, it may be "hidden" for many generations before two carrier dogs are bred and it presents in a pup. Your pup will never be all chocolate like a typical chocolate lab, but the points may become less noticeable as he matures and his coat gets longer/less fuzzy. As far as his age, I'd defer to your vet, as they can estimate based on his teeth, but labs can be various sizes, and I know of a few that have been pretty small (20 lbs or so) at 4 months old, so size alone doesn't mean much.

His face and body shape do look a little atypical for a lab pup, but there are so many different "types" and variations within the breed that I wouldn't automatically say he's a mix based on that. The tan point dogs seem to be more common in field lines, and they tend to be leaner dogs as well, so maybe that's it?

It does sound like the breeder was not the most knowledgeable/trustworthy though (telling you his color would change), so it's also possible that they are being dishonest and the papers you got are not for your dog, or are for him and are incorrect (maybe another father of the litter, that the owner may or not not have known about). There's really no way to know as it stands right now. You can use DNA to verify if two dogs are the parent of a given dog, and you may be able to have the breeder do that it you press them to prove parentage.

Here are some links showing mismarked labs, including some that are your pup's color!
Mismarks & other odd markings in Labradors part 2 - Woodhaven Labradors

https://www.guidingeyes.org/21268/black-and-tan-labrador-retrievers/

LABRADORNET - THE GENETICS OF BRINDLE AND TAN POINT LABRADOR RETRIEVERS

Re: AKC DNA parentage testing
DNA Profile Program - American Kennel Club

Whatever he is, he's cute, and as long as you are happy with each other, the important things are covered :)
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Yikes. I'm sorry this happened to you. Your pup is so cute though... are you going to keep her?
You bought a puppy from a backyard breeder or puppy mill who lied to you about the dog's age and breed. I would say this is most definitely not a pure Lab. I agree with someone else that this puppy looks like he has some German Shorthaired Pointer in him. His face shape looks like a GSP to me, more than a Lab. I think you should report this breeder ASAP for fraud to the AKC and Consumer Affairs, because despite the fact you care about this puppy, he might very well have a great deal of health problems down the line, and his parents are likely suffering in terrible conditions because people who sell dogs like this don't care about anything but money. How much did you pay for him? Also, I have to ask, if you could see the puppy didn't look like what you were paying for...why did you buy him? I know he's cute but you kind of admitted to allowing yourself to be scammed.
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Yes I'm keeping him! I feel in love already! Lol
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Because he looked like a lab when I got him.. And I was told the feet would become chocolate. Also with papers I was convinced
Well either way I hope you report this person. They shouldn't be allowed to break the law like this.
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He looks like a lab to me, particularly the 2nd photo, most definitely a field bred one not a bench. Also, as another poster mentioned, labs can be born with mis-markings which is what your dog has on it's paws. I don't trust that the breeder was a reputable one, did you sign a contract? Did they give you a copy of pedigree? Those may be the only way of 100% proving your dog is a labrador.

Pretty darn adorable anyway!
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My chocolate lab is 11 years old now and yes he has NZKC papers from a breeder however they felt they couldnt sell him because one testicle was inside so they asked the pet shop we got him from to sell him. but here is charlie as a pup and now.

to me he looks pure lab and the NZKC papers say he is but from a pet shop hard to say for sure

Last pic was a few weeks ago my aunt took on her phone from UK second to last few month ago

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