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Hi Everyone,

I've recently got a 12 week old Poochon (toypoodle/bichon frise) she's lovely, good with children, friendly, partly puppy pad trained & generally one of the best things me & my husband have ever done is get her.

The problem:

The first couple of days of having her we didn't give her a chance to settle in properly visiting family (fully our fault) so the first night she fell asleep in our bed then was put in her own bed at the side of ours, slept 10pm to 4.16am (we were quite happy with that)

The second night we decide to put her in her bed downstairs, she lasted 2 hours then started barking & howling like no tomorrow, my husband ended up sleeping downstairs with her as I couldn't bare the noise.

The past couple of nights she has slept in her bed at the side of ours with just one toilet trip downstairs in the middle of the night, we've now decided we'd like her to sleep downstairs as we don't want her to become to needy with us and for us to be able to nip out for an hour without her crying & upsetting herself.

We're going to put her in the kitchen tonight in her bed & possibly in the fabric crate we bought (leaving the door open so she can go to her puppy pads & food) I know it's going to be hard on her, is there anything we can do to ease it & make it more bearable for her & us?

Massively sorry for the long post.
 

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Hi Everyone,

I've recently got a 12 week old Poochon (toypoodle/bichon frise) she's lovely, good with children, friendly, partly puppy pad trained & generally one of the best things me & my husband have ever done is get her.

The problem:

The first couple of days of having her we didn't give her a chance to settle in properly visiting family (fully our fault) so the first night she fell asleep in our bed then was put in her own bed at the side of ours, slept 10pm to 4.16am (we were quite happy with that)

The second night we decide to put her in her bed downstairs, she lasted 2 hours then started barking & howling like no tomorrow, my husband ended up sleeping downstairs with her as I couldn't bare the noise.

The past couple of nights she has slept in her bed at the side of ours with just one toilet trip downstairs in the middle of the night, we've now decided we'd like her to sleep downstairs as we don't want her to become to needy with us and for us to be able to nip out for an hour without her crying & upsetting herself.

We're going to put her in the kitchen tonight in her bed & possibly in the fabric crate we bought (leaving the door open so she can go to her puppy pads & food) I know it's going to be hard on her, is there anything we can do to ease it & make it more bearable for her & us?

Massively sorry for the long post.
Dogs are pack animals. Perhaps some dogs can do well sleeping on a different floor than it's pack, but those dogs are few and far between and also grown adult dogs, not puppies. Puppies, by definition, are needy.

Your puppy also still has night-time bathroom needs. You'll end up with more problems, not less, if you have a puppy who needs to make a racket in order to pee.
 

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Is the only reason you don't want your puppy sleeping in the same room with you is because you think it'll make her needy?

Having a puppy sleep in the same room with you isn't going to make them needy. Separating them from you, especially at such young an age when they just got taken away from their family is going to cause her anxiety. Her being able to see you when she wakes up comforts her and helps her to realize that she's not alone.

As an example, my pup is 1 year old tomorrow. He sleeps in bed with me. Until he was 4 months old he slept in his crate beside my bed. Around 4 months old when I could trust him not to pee on the bed he started sleeping with me. He usually goes to bed around 10pm, during the week I'll usually go to bed around the same time. However if I don't go to bed at that time or get up after for whatever reason, he'll usually go to bed on his own, he doesn't whine or cry about me not being there.

If you really want the pup to sleep downstairs or in a separate room you can. Make it as comfortable as possible. Set a time in the middle of the night for a potty break, and ignore any whining or crying from the puppy. Once you give in to the whining, it gets the puppy what she wants. (your attention) and because it worked last time, the next time she wants your attention she will continue to whine and cry until she gets it.

I would highly recommend crate training the puppy, and having her sleep in her crate in your room. Crate training will help tremendously with house training. Also if your schedule allows you to take the pup out to the bathroom every 1-2 hours I would get rid of the pee pads and just stick with having her go outside only. It will take less time to fully potty train and you don't run the risk of her thinking soft surfaces in your house are OK to pee on.

On top of all that, you guys should definitely look into putting your puppy into a puppy socialization class. Look for a positive reinforcement trainer with no more than 5-6 puppies per class.

Check out this links for house and crate training, I think they'll help you a lot.

http://www.dogforum.com/housetraining/house-training-how-tos-2135/

http://www.dogforum.com/training-behavior-stickies/crate-training-faq-3974/
 

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Hi guys,

Thank you for your advice, we'd just been discussing this before I came on to check for any responses.

We've decided to keep her in our room & get her used to the crate and as she gets better give her the freedom of the house, like all my parents & grandparents dogs have done.

I don't want her to get separation anxiety as I've heard of dogs becoming depressed with it & its not fair on her but I want to be able to nip to the supermarket without worrying she's going to be fretting, not that we'd ever leave her alone more than we'd have to maybe an hour or so.

Teddy went to her first puppy socialisation party last night at the local vets & she shocked me at how vocal she was after the initial shyness with the other pups.

We're also booked onto training classes at the Dogs Trust for a 5 week course, so hopefully that will help her confidence abit.
 

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Over a week later & Teddy is still in our room (Not in a crate just her bed)

However now she wants to get up at 4am every morning, she was sleeping through till 6am, she wanders round the bedroom whining & jumping up on the bed, I've tried just putting her back in her bed but it doesn't work.

I've also just found out I'm pregnant & I'm exhausted is there anything I can do to maybe settle her? She pee's on her pads in the bedroom as if we take her out in the middle of the night she won't settle again

Sorry for being a pain but I've never had my own puppy before, it's usually been family pets that my parents/grandparents have looked after.
 

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Over a week later & Teddy is still in our room (Not in a crate just her bed)

However now she wants to get up at 4am every morning, she was sleeping through till 6am, she wanders round the bedroom whining & jumping up on the bed, I've tried just putting her back in her bed but it doesn't work.

I've also just found out I'm pregnant & I'm exhausted is there anything I can do to maybe settle her? She pee's on her pads in the bedroom as if we take her out in the middle of the night she won't settle again

Sorry for being a pain but I've never had my own puppy before, it's usually been family pets that my parents/grandparents have looked after.
Are you waking up to pee? I would put her back in the crate. She shouldn't have "permission" to wander the room. Up, pee, back to bed. Since she's displayed the propensity to wander, you need to stop that.

ps--this will work for your infant, too. Once they get to be a few months old, they'll want to have play/attention in the middle of the night but since infants are immobile cribs work better than crates.:p
 
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