Just a quick question here. Are you using "leave it" as a camand to wait for the treat? Not a big deal at all but I use "leave it" for something my dog is not allowed to have. I use "wait" for my dog to wait for something he is allowed to have and then "get it" as a comand to go ahead and take whatever he is waiting for. Just curious if you use a another comand for something your dog isnt allowed to have? Or mabye I am just confused here? lol Fizz is becoming really good at waiting. Does it really well for food, starting to wait for toys to.
Tim
at that moment, they are not allowed to have it
I use "wait" as "stay"
I use leave it for both the behaviors you describe...I
want the behavior to be VERY strong, The video was made also during the
early stages of learning "leave it" . I also train it with a reward from another hand som'times. But they will recieve the in hand reward as well.
basically, Im using Premack...because I feel premack creates a stronger behavior than simply rewarding the dog to ignore som'thing and only letting them have the reward, not what they originally wanted...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premack's_principle
The act of waiting for the reward, becomes reinforcing in itself
Premack's Principle suggests that if a student wants to perform a given activity, the student will perform a less desirable activity to get at the more desirable activity. Premack's Principle suggests that if a student wants to perform a given activity, the student will perform a less desirable activity to get at the more desirable activity.
When a dog is learning a new behavior with
new criteria (
different part of the house, different treat, dogs around whatever) you want to keep the success rate for the dog HIGH. Then as they succeed, you either offer harder criteria, or if you are happy with what you've made, you put it on a reinforcement schedual and change the reinforcer to praise. Early on in the game, if they dog doesn't get what it wants, it may feel punished and the behavior may fall apart.
We are now towards the end of proofing indoors, I can throw treats at them or past them and they will leave them alone...outdoors som' of the dogs are still playing the basic game, Tippy is further than the others.
Are you familiar with variable reinforcement? Som'times the animal is NOT rewarded for the behavior, so it becomes stronger...In the real life situations when they are told leave it...they obviously don't get to have the object/reward which is a similar premise. Also that said, if they find som'thing harmless, I will ask them to leave it there, they then defer to me and then I let them have it... Chili likes napkins...lol
that said, I honestly have little use for this behavior as other than a trick... If they are on leash and see som'thing they want, I just manage the behavior (don't let them walk there) or ask for attention.... Honestly tho...99% of the time they see food on the ground, they will just ignore it, or imediatly defer to me... my goal is to have them defer to me without me asking them too....this way they will leave things alone even if Iam not in the room, without me asking.
Perhaps Its time to update the vid.
if they are off leash i simply recall them, which is solid in the three dogs that aren't deaf.
anyway basically...I want the dogs to learn that they DONT
immediatly get the treat in my hand...even tho its in their face. At least at this stage
Does that explain it? lol wow that got long...
how did you teach leave it? Iam curious
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