[ZoesMom]

it is not the same thing. and my dog obeys me just fine without treats. AND i don't have to punish him for that to happen.

people walk around with bags of treats because training is continuous throughout the dog's life (or it should be) it doesn't mean that they MUST use the treats in all situations.

Same here! I like capturing good behavior whenever and where ever it's offered.

 

[ZoesMom]

Punishment is whatever the dog doesn't like and takes as aversive/intimidating. In example my dog finds raised voices to be very punishing. Even if the voice is not directed at her.

 

[ZoesMom]

http://www.dogforum.com/training-behavior-stickies/suppression-modification-shutdown-fallout-4776/

http://www.dogforum.com/training-behavior-stickies/thoughts-training-food-1219/

http://www.dogforum.com/training-behavior-stickies/4-quadrants-operant-conditioning-23702/

http://www.dogforum.com/training-behavior-stickies/calming-signals-10084/

http://www.dogforum.com/training-behavior-stickies/reactivity-leash-aggression-barrier-frustration-12538/

http://www.dogforum.com/training-behavior-stickies/dominance-dogs-4076/

http://www.dogforum.com/training-behavior-stickies/resource-guarding-causes-prevention-modification-7511/

So I've linked quite a few of our stickies. OP you really need to educate yourself on what positive reinforcement is. It's not "treat training". As you can see there are stickies on different behavioral problems and how to fix them with PR.

 

[ZoesMom]

I honestly do not see the point in continuing to argue with the OP because she doesn't have the proper understanding of PR/NP and until she educates herself and reads the posts that I linked this thread will be closed. Everyone already posted really good information and I don't see the point in beating a dead horse.

OP read the links and learn what PR really is. After you have done so and have a better understanding you can PM me and I will reopen this.