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We went to my niece?s birthday party on Sunday and while there my sister mentioned that their 4 month old puppy was sick. Apparently she got worse and she tested positive for parvo last night and is being treated.

We have a 12 week old puppy. She had her first shots at 8 weeks old and is due for her second round tomorrow. We?ve called the vet and they said that they can test her for parvo tomorrow.

How likely is it that she would have it? The party was in a public indoor place, not their house so we had no direct contact with the sick puppy or feces. I know that my sister (and her family) could have carried it on them to the party though and we could have them picked something up and brought it home. How likely would that be though? I?m looking for reassurance or to prepare myself, whichever is more likely.

I seriously can?t deal with this. This has been the worst week of our lives and now I?m worried about our puppy.
 

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When you go and get her tested tomorrow just stay calm. Now that you know that the house you came from had Parvo I wouldn't go back to it tell it's curred. Parvo is in areas probably all over the house in the yard it could be anywhere there so don't go back for the puppies sake. :)
 

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The fact you weren't at the house makes it less likely but the fact they carry it on them there is still a chance.
 

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Thank you.

My father in law passed away Friday and we were happy for the distraction on niece?s birthday party...and now this.

Plus, our cats are both ill. The vet thinks they?ve been poisoned by something. One of them is recovering but the other is still in bad shape.
 

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I'm am so sorry that is a lot at one time.. take a breather and relax okay you just need a break. It's good that one cat is getting better hopefully the other one will come around and there will be nothing wrong with your puppy :):)
 

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oh, *my*. I'm so sorry.



re the 12-WO pup -
at that age, unless there are other complications [a heavy parasite load, a concurrent infection, chronic health issue, auto-immune problems, etc], the pup is in very, very little danger from Parvo virus. :thumbsup:

to illustrate the age factor, 80% of 5-WO pups who get Parvo will die, despite excellent 24/7 vet oversight, IV-fluids, meds, & clinical care.
In strong contrast, over 80% of 8-WO pups who get Parvo will recover with nothing but decent home nursing: easy-to-digest foods, frequent small meals, & fluids with electrolytes to make up for lost e-lytes.
[I'm not saying don't take a sick pup to the vet! - these are statistics, not suggestions.]

The difference in outcomes is purely ages & stages - the 5-WOs have rapidly-dividing intestinal lining, that Parvo targets. Heavy damage means the pup loses the ability to digest & absorb nutrients, & a baby's job is to grow; they can't even maintain, so many die.
U can drop a grand or more on several days of in-clinic critical care for such infants, & despite all efforts, they die. :(

The 12-WO's intestinal lining is more mature, much-more 'grown' & slower growing, now - so s/he is out of the danger stage, barring other simultaneous assaults on their immune system, & of course, Ur pup gets good nutrition, water is available, they've been vaccinated.
Unless the 3-MO has some unknown problem, there's very little threat, even if the pup actually *does* get Parvo.

Pups must ingest or inhale Parvo to 'catch' it, so taking off one's shoes at the door is a simple way to avoid exposure to all kinds of infectious / contagious disease or infection.
Have a shelf or rack in the foyer or closet, out of dog-reach, for outdoor shoes; keep washable shoes there to be put on when U enter. The floors, rugs, & carpet stays cleaner, & germs, pollen, mold / mildew, etc, are all reduced.
Eating grass, sniffing or licking feces / urine, licking their own paws, or grooming their bellies / legs after lying on contaminated soil, are among the ways Parvo enters the body. // Depending upon where U live, Parvo may be a year-round or only seasonal hazard - killing frosts eliminate Parvo.

Tidewater-VA does not get consistent frosts, so Parvo can persist there for 2-years in the soil or sand, where contaminated feces or vomit once was; despite that, in 12-plus years, none of my clients' dogs or pups ever contracted Parvo, & pups were on leash & walking in public as soon as they came home [at 49-DO & up, generally 8-WO & up].
We just avoided areas of heavy dog-use such as dog-parks, or the grass beside the bike-path / ped walking trail, & so on; pups stayed on paved surfaces, or low-dog-use grass & soil [i-e, their own yard / garden, fenced parks that didn't get mass dog use, fenced tennis courts, etc]. At the beach, we walked below the tide-wrack left by high tide.
Very young pups were carried down to the firm damp sand, not walking them on "unwashed" sands above the tide's reach.

Such precautions only last till the pup is 3-MO or so, & then - as they are not only vaxed, but older & less vulnerable - they're relaxed.


Re the cats -
Does the vet have any idea what poisoned the cats?
do they roam outdoors? Or are they indoor-only? // Antifreeze is a nasty poison, & a woman was arrested in Va Beach after 3 owned cats who were allowed to roam were poisoned. She'd been putting out antifreeze-laced cans of fish & cat-food for years, & killed many feral cats, before she sickened owned pets, & was caught.

PINE-SOL & all its chemical relatives are nasty; bad for humans, even the fumes when poured in warm water are bad, but especially dangerous to cats; Lysol, etc, should not be used in cat homes.

Rodenticides that cats ingest by eating sick / dying / dead mice or rats are another possible source - sticky-traps in out of the way areas, & old-fashioned spring-traps that the cat can't reach [to eat the trapped mouse] are safe options. Battery-operated traps that kill mice with electric shocks & completely enclose the body & bait are also cat-safe.

I'm so sorry all of this is happening at the same time - U must feel overwhelmed. :( At least the puppy is very, very unlikely to get seriously ill. Perhaps that's one small comfort.
I feel for U; hold onto each other, & remember, this will pass - as bad as it is, now, it will get better.

I hope the cat recovers. Is s/he at home, or in the clinic?
- terry


 

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Unless you take your pup to your sisters house, or you yourself go there and then come home and fail to take off the shoes you wore, and leave them outside, OR step into some bleach water while wearing your shoes. The likelyhood of your puppy catching parvo from you is extremely slim.

Personally I'd keep your pup away from your sister's pup, and not let her pup come to your house, for at least a month after her symptoms subside, that's because she can still shed the virus for around a month after recovering. I'd keep your pup away from your sisters house until a month after her last vaccination. I know that it seems like overkill, but from the sounds of it the last thing you need is another sick pet.

(((HUGS))) I'm so sorry about your father in law. I'll be praying for you and your family, and that your kitties get better.
 
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Thank you. My sister and I live about 45 minutes away so our pups haven?t ever met and probably won?t.
Unfortunately I didn?t know about the parvo until last night so there was no taking off shoes or washing them when we came home. When my sister told me that her dog was sick it didn?t seem serious at first and I assumed that she had been vaccinated (she has not been). I also had so much other stuff on my mind that I forgot all about it until she told me last night that her puppy tested positive for parvo. So it?s too late for any preventative measures.

We have no idea about the cats. They are strictly indoor cats. We saw a mouse in our house several weeks ago but we would never use any kind of poison because of our pets (and young children) so we just used a humane trap. The only thing we can think of is possibly their food. We ran out of our normal canned cat food Monday night and my husband stopped at a small store to grab 2 cans of a different brand just to feed them that night (it was after the funeral and we were exhausted). The next morning both cats were vomiting and didn?t want to eat breakfast. During that day they both started acting lethargic. We took them to the vet and they were given fluids and a shot of something. One of them (14 year old) started doing better right away and he?s pretty much back to normal now. The other one (5 year old) is still not eating. He?s doing a little better and walking around more and a little more interested in what?s going on but still not eating. We are supposed to bring him back to the vet tomorrow if he doesn?t start eating.
 

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Sister literally just text me and said that her kids also have strep throat now. So my kids will probably be sick soon too.
 

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I'm praying for everything just hit you at one time .. I'm so sorry... hopefully your children won't get Streep throat. Your in between a rock and a hard place you can get through this just hold on tight it will end. Take a few deep breaths clear your head and take it one step at a time. Make a check list in your head and slowly start checking everything off. Your going to get through this!!!
 

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Besides all the negativity going on in your life is there anything positive?? Maybe seeing a positive will help a little but also besides the cat eating chicken :):)
 

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is the 5-YO drinking?



oh, my... sick kids would be rough. // Hopefully the kids don't get sick, nor do U, but stress lowers immune function, so even if U usually don't catch every passing cold, U are vulnerable, at the mo'. :headshake:

Is the younger cat still drinking enuf water? // Cats have desert ancestors, & often don't drink adequate fluids - those recirculating fountains with activated-charcoal filters are great for encouraging cats to drink - the sound of running H2O & the fresh scent of oxygenated water make them "feel thirsty", & they drink more.
A good fountain, with regularly-replaced filters, can literally add years to a cat's healthy lifespan; kidney failure takes many older cats, when they quit consuming sufficient fluids.

this one's exceptionally high-quality; medical grade glass & tubing, lead-free porcelain, USA-made -
https://www.etsy.com/listing/37648659/pet-cat-water-fountain-glacier-point

if the bowl arrives cracked, contact them within 10-days & replacement is free; if U don't like it, the whole unit is returnable for 60-days.


These are beautiful, food-grade, durable, & hand-made in New England -
https://www.thirstycatfountains.com/

...lead-free glazes, many styles; as big & as fancy as U like, or smaller, simpler models.

- terry

 

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Besides all the negativity going on in your life is there anything positive?? Maybe seeing a positive will help a little but also besides the cat eating chicken :):)
Sadly I can?t really think of anything. I know things could be much worse though. At least my kids are relatively healthy (even if they get strep).
 

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Sadly I can?t really think of anything. I know things could be much worse though. At least my kids are relatively healthy (even if they get strep).
That's always a good thing :):) Health kiddos is a absolutely a plus :):)

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oh, my... sick kids would be rough. // Hopefully the kids don't get sick, nor do U, but stress lowers immune function, so even if U usually don't catch every passing cold, U are vulnerable, at the mo'.


Is the younger cat still drinking enuf water? // Cats have desert ancestors, & often don't drink adequate fluids - those recirculating fountains with activated-charcoal filters are great for encouraging cats to drink - the sound of running H2O & the fresh scent of oxygenated water make them "feel thirsty", & they drink more.
A good fountain, with regularly-replaced filters, can literally add years to a cat's healthy lifespan; kidney failure takes many older cats, when they quit consuming sufficient fluids.

this one's exceptionally high-quality; medical grade glass & tubing, lead-free porcelain, USA-made -
https://www.etsy.com/listing/37648659/pet-cat-water-fountain-glacier-point

if the bowl arrives cracked, contact them within 10-days & replacement is free; if U don't like it, the whole unit is returnable for 60-days.


These are beautiful, food-grade, durable, & hand-made in New England -
https://www.thirstycatfountains.com/

...lead-free glazes, many styles; as big & as fancy as U like, or smaller, simpler models.

- terry
He is drinking. My husband watched him drink some last night and I saw him drinking some today before I gave him the chicken.
 

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U can offer low-salt or 'no added sodium' chicken broth, to entice him to drink more - or to get both cats drinking more.
Flushing the bad stuff is always good, so extra fluids are a bonus. :)

I'll be thinking of U all - i doubt very much the puppy will be sick, or at least, not with Parvo.
I hope Strep skips the family.
- t

 
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