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makes sense... i've been working on the cup game (from the vid) more and more with clover, but i can't seem to convince him not to pick them up and give them to me...
lol, I have never had a dog do that before leave it to that big lug to do something different.:D

You could try large heavy bowls like Crocs, or you could look for a way to lock down the cups so he has to touch it with his nose and then look at you for help. I start my dogs with the Which hand game so by the time I get to the Bowls/straight line tracking they already know to nose the item then sit and look at me for approval.
that's a good idea, i don't want to go out and buy anything new, i was using cottage cheese containers... i think the problem is that we just worked on him picking up random stuff for me, so he's all about that... he also tries to dig at them... :eyeroll: sometimes he is a little bit too creative... :)

Hey, Fawkese1 - did you figure this out? I was re-reading this thread, and thought maybe you could use a few coffee cups, or bowls (I have non-clear bowls) if you don't mind putting a few to the side and washing them up later. Just a thought....
 

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First off, I am not a professional trainer. There are many way to teach a dog to track, and many different reason for this type of training. The first post was a good example of how to train your dog to find family members in case of an emergency. This is the best type of track training for a standard house pet. Most tracking dogs are specialists. Some track specific creatures for their humans to hunt, while other track humans that get lost. Some are trained to track dead body's/bones, and some are trained to multi scent track. Cleo is trained to multi scent many different types of furry critters. I am Going to work with Missy on man tracking so she can be a teammate to Betty. With that being said this is where you start to make some decisions. I will also add...This is not an over night thing. To get Cleo fully trained on Multi scent tracking it took almost a year. Most single scent, or specialized tracking can take up to 6 months to complete.

First: You must have a dog, your kid brother or sister will fail and you will have wasted your time.:p

Second: Decided which path you wish to take your dog down, and which specialized scent you want your little buddy to work.

Third: Get started on basic commands, if your dog doesn't know them yet.

Mine are: Come, Sit, Stay, Down, Recover (I will explain), Settle, and Leave it.

Most have a problem understanding recover. It is a combination of a call off command, settle, and down/sit. I developed it over time, because I was annoyed of using 3 commands to get one thing done.
Recover with Lil' Misses:


Forth: Once your dog has a good grasp on basic commands, it is time for the games. This is where I teach the "find it" or "Search" command. Get your dogs favorite toy/item. Find something to cover it up. I use stainless steel bowls for small items and a towel for large. Show the dog the item, place it under the covering. Repeat as many time as needed to catch your dogs interest. Once your dog is interested in this new game, let him/her get a reward each time he/she put his/her nose on the item. Also, slowly add in the search, or find it command, as well as the sit command. Basically, you will be teaching your dog to point at the item with his/her nose and then sit. This is the signal that your dog has found the desired item when fully trained.

Fifth: Change over to training treats after your dog has a good grasp on the desired commands, and he/she knows exactly what you want of them. Work with this, until you and the dog are comfortable with the progress made. Store bought scents are added during this phase also. You do not have to get a full carcass to train a dog to track an animal. All scent are sold on the net Example: http://www.gundogsonline.com/dog-training-scents/dog-training-scents-1.25-oz.html


I will add more in a bit. The next part will include diagrams of how to run straight line tracking through Obstacle tracking. ;)
I would like train my dog,but my dog is very stubborn.
 

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I've got both of my dogs trained to do blood tracking. My female is one of the most stubborn and persistent dogs I've ever owned! Smart though. Just found this thread I need to do some reading!
 

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I just wanted to say that I have a 6 month old Bloodhound who I'm raising for SAR. He'll leave for real training this spring, but we've been doing some puppy tracks and he's finally figured out what he's doing. He doesn't really track yet but he will sniff around a little. He knows the point of the "game" is to find the person and he gets sooo happy to find them.
 

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Started another one tracking g a few weeks ago. 7 month old malinois pup, she has taken to it great. I have used runaways in the past, but this time we have added food to footstep tracking. This isn't my preferred way, but it has really worked well with keeping her slow and focused (lol big deal with a mal!)
 

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Started another one tracking g a few weeks ago. 7 month old malinois pup, she has taken to it great. I have used runaways in the past, but this time we have added food to footstep tracking. This isn't my preferred way, but it has really worked well with keeping her slow and focused (lol big deal with a mal!)
Well done to you. Is there any reason it isn't your preferred way? It's always been mine. :)
 

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Hi! at first I planned to take my dog to a trainer, but after reading some reviews (Veterinary and vet services review and complaints) refused from that idea and decided to train my pet at home. Well, the results were amazing! It took me not so long to teach my dog basic commands and scent tricks. So now I'm sure training a dog on your own is the best option.
Agreed! All you need is a few treats, a great attitude, and some patience! And a dog, of course :D
 

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This first post is specifically to get a base started. I will post my whole process when I have the time to sit down and write it out, but for now you (Mikey) can work on this basic article from Tracking Dog Training - Fun Games For Beginning Tracking Dog Training. ;) Sorry for the sappy start, but I could feel the tension building, lol. This is similar to my treat under the bowl, or which hand games.

Find It!
Your dog loves it when you give it a treat, right? Start your tracking dog training with a simple "Find It" game. For starters, you need a dog treat. Have your dog sniff it, but don't give it to your dog. Then, make a great show of looking like you're hiding the treat from the dog by going to five or more places.

Then surreptitiously hide the dog treat in any one of the places you've visited. Then, say something like "Find it!" or "Go find!" Have your dog find the dog treat and praise your dog profusely when he or she finds it. If the dog becomes proficient in this game, you can make this type of training more challenging by hiding the treat while the dog is in another room.

Find Bubba!
This is a different take on the first tracking dog training game mentioned above. For this second dog training game, you are going to teach him or her how to find a certain person. This game is useful if you need the dog to find a certain person. First, you have to teach the dog to associate the name of the person with the person you want your dog to find. This training can be very useful if you want to teach your dog to track a family member for example.

Have your target person sit in a corner of a room, and say, "Find (the name of the person)!" Then, let the person give the dog a treat when the dog finds him or her. Do this several times until the dog learns that he or she needs to find the person when you give the command. Then, slowly ease the dog from the dog treats. This part of the training ensures that the dog is not trained to find the person who has treats, but to find the person only.

When the dog learns this technique, go to the next level. This time, teach the dog to find the person in another room. Then make it more difficult by having the dog use the scent from the air to find the person outdoors.
You can let your dog undergo this type of dog training for competition or for search and rescue. You can arm your dog with tracking dog training and you'll have a powerful ally when someone in your family goes missing.
That's funny, I just did a scent tracking game last night with my GSP and Dalmatian. I used quail scent and put it on this weird toy bird head that the GSP likes. I would pretend to throw it somewhere and then hide it behind me to distract them. Then they would run back to me and start sniffing around until they found it. Then I started throwing it a little bit further away from me so they would come to me first and then sniff around the vicinity. Next I did the other room thing, I put them in the office and hid it in the living room. They would both come out and prance around looking for it. My Dalmatian is actually better at using his nose! I think I gave my GSP bad habits by letting her sight track birds at the park when she was young. She is starting to get the whole nose thing down though. It's just funny to see a Dal track bird scent better than a bird dog.:thumbsup:
 

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Hi Scent hound,
i am thoroughly enjoying your thread!
Its been years since i lived in a city, but when i did, tracking was the single most tiresome dog exercise that allowed them to be doing what they wished, to track.
It has brought back some fond memories of previous dogs ive had.
These days, i have bunnies to do the track laying for me.
Coz im old enough that walking the track once is sufficient lol
 

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I am definitely start on the scent games as soon as I can figure out a good container!
As for tracking, what sort of scent do you guys find is the most effective? I have access to fresh blood for example. Do you use normal treats at the end of track or something "extra special"?
 

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I am definitely start on the scent games as soon as I can figure out a good container!
As for tracking, what sort of scent do you guys find is the most effective? I have access to fresh blood for example. Do you use normal treats at the end of track or something "extra special"?
For tracking I use human scent, just have someone lay a track.

As far as containers, what scent source are you using? I vary containers so they don't always alert on just plastic for instance. So I use Tupperware, glass jars, salt shakers, PVC pipe, and nothing, I'll just put source out on its own.
 

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I was hoping he will do scent games for his normal dogfood but if not livertreats.
After that probably teabags.
The problem is that I seem to have a hard time getting anyone involved in training, even if it's just to lay a track.
If I do go for human scent, is it easier if the person walks barefoot?
 

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I was hoping he will do scent games for his normal dogfood but if not livertreats.
After that probably teabags.
The problem is that I seem to have a hard time getting anyone involved in training, even if it's just to lay a track.
If I do go for human scent, is it easier if the person walks barefoot?
No, shoes and clothing is just fine. Dogs track using dead skin riffs or crushed vegetation. Scent specific uses the skin, crushed vegetation is easily lost on pavement or with cross tracks.
 
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