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Hello,

I am thinking of getting a dog in the future, not in the immediate future but possibly a few years from now. I have been doing research and I think I have narrowed my choices down to two: a Newfoundland or a Rough Collie.

Now, initially I was set on getting a Newfie. I read that they are not super energetic, that they are very friendly and that when they are fully grown they don't eat much more than a Lab despite their size. That seemed to fit what I wanted. But then I read that Newfies have many health problems and a very short life expectancy, about ten years or even less. Also, my house is not very big and and I have a small yard. I am confused on this point because some sources say Newfies are low energy and don't need much space but other sources say that they need a lot of space due to their size.

I have tried many dog breed selectors online and most point me to the Rough Collie as being the dog most compatible with me while also being healthier and having better longevity. But I worry about not being able to give a Collie enough mental stimulation and their tendency to bark. I don't want a high-strung or nervous dog or one that will anger my neighbors through constant barking.

My family used to own Dobermans but I have decided that they were a bit too much to handle and I would rather get a more laid-back dog this time around, especially since my retired father now lives with me.

What would you recommend? I love large dogs and would rather not get a small one, even though they might be a good choice.

Thanks.
 

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What about a former racing greyhound? They are calm dogs that like a good walk or two but then are happy to chill for the rest of the day.
 

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we had newfies all the time growing up. We Had a 4br house and I'd say our yard was smaller than the typical suburb backyards. They did great with the amount of space. They are lower energy, I wouldn't recommend them to someone who wanted a running companion. They did fine on short walks around the block and most of ours lived to be about 14 without the hip issues they're known for. I think the main thing that's important with them is taking the time to find the great breeders that have strong health lines. not to say that isn't important for all breeds but I think it's more so with the xl breeds that have the possibility of joint and hip issues. The one thing I will say is be ready for drool, drool flying everywhere. lol. the females however, tend to not drool or shake the drool near as much as the males for some reason though. My dad recently made the switch to a newfypoo ( his new wife doesn't like all the shedding) and he's a great dog, less drool, less hair and the big size. he also does great with the smaller yard, in his main home they have a tiny backyard and he does fine there during the week and then on the weekends they go to their lake home that has more land. They really are the gentle giants, they were always very gentle with us as kids and we could crawl all over them, we had a harness and they loved pulling us by sled. They also love the cuddles and think they're lap dogs.lol. ours only barked at strangers at the door.
 

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What about a former racing greyhound? They are calm dogs that like a good walk or two but then are happy to chill for the rest of the day.
Thanks for the suggestion. I honestly never thought about a retired racing greyhound. That is an interesting idea. I always figured that a greyhound would be very energetic and need tons of exercise.

I've never been a fan of the herding breeds though, mainly bc sometimes their nipping is extremely hard to train out of them.
That is something I didn't take into account when researching the Rough Collie. My two main concerns about Collies are their tendency to bark and their need for mental stimulation. I am definitely willing to play with/train my dog and have even thought of taking up a dog sport as a hobby in the future but if that is not possible I wouldn't want a bored, destructive dog.
 

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Our newfys were never destructive. We always had plenty of bones. They were just the Netflix and chill at home but they absolutely loved swimming. I’d probably own one if we ever buy a home (hubs gets moved around too much for work right now)
 

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I love herding breeds and have always owned them. I’ve also been around tons of them. Never ever a single issue with them nipping outside of the puppy stage. I honestly wouldn’t be concerned about that or let it be a reason not to get one. So long as you train appropriately and get a dog that has an appropriate energy level for your home, it’s unlikely to be an issue.

I think Newfies are cool dogs, but I’ll never own one, mainly because of the drool! I also don’t like the short lifespans and health issues.
 

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While not wanting to generalize the rough Collies I've met have been far less lassy and far more yappy quite highly strung, a bit nippy and just that constant whining like a squeaky wheelbarrow enough to drive me insane.

on the other hand most retired greyhounds I've met have been fantastic placid dogs who love nothing more than to curl up on a big cushion and enjoy the comfort of a good home
 
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