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Hi all,

Me and my girlfriend got our new Akita puppy yesterday. The puppy is still very young (it will be 2 months in 20 days). The one issue we have is that it doesn't do potty outside. After the meal we wait for 5 minutes after he is finished, and we go out with him on the porch but he just lays there and does nothing. We waited for 15-20 minutes but he doesn't do anything. As soon as we go back inside he does the deed there :S. And this happened every time expect he succeeded once to do potty outside. Do you have any experience with this ? I know that the Akitas are more stubborn than other breeds, but is only patience the key or we doing something wrong ? Maybe its still stressed because its his first day away from his mom or he is trying to get to know the area better. Also is it possible that the porch is concrete, and i should take him to the lawn to relieve himself ? I avoided the lawn because different people gave me different opinions that he should be outside until he gets his second vaccine. Any help would be appreciated, and let me know if you have any additional questions.

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house breaking can take a few months to be perfected.
this is a baby animal. babies are not that good with their bladder control yet.
just stay patient and don't punish the puppy for making mistakes. it doesn't do it because it wants to make you agry or because it's stubborn, it's just still very small and young.
-always bring the dog to same place and stay there until it has done his business. make it boring. No playing until the business is done. when it does it correctly: throw a party and transform yourself in sa giant treat dispenser. He must think that him peeing outside is the most awesome thing for you.

-bring the dog outside after sleeping, eating, drinking, playing and every two hours (also during the night)

-if there is a mishap, clean it thoroughly and don'T punish the dog. it is your fault for not taking it out fast enough to prevent the mishap. (you can buy special cleaners for dog urine...we just cleaned with Mr. Proper and put some vinegar/water-mix on it afterwards)

-learn to read your dogs signals. Most dogs get a bit fidgety when they have to go. keep the dog close you (houseleash) and observe their behaviour as much as possible. as soon as it seems to get nervous: get the dog and bring it outside asap: if you were right and it does its business outside :awesome party.

with slightly over a month, this dog is also way to young to be without mother and siblings, in my opinion. why did you get it so young?
is it a rescue? is the mother dead or hurt?
 

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house breaking can take a few months to be perfected.
this is a baby animal. babies are not that good with their bladder control yet.
just stay patient and don't punish the puppy for making mistakes. it doesn't do it because it wants to make you agry or because it's stubborn, it's just still very small and young.
-always bring the dog to same place and stay there until it has done his business. make it boring. No playing until the business is done. when it does it correctly: throw a party and transform yourself in sa giant treat dispenser. He must think that him peeing outside is the most awesome thing for you.

-bring the dog outside after sleeping, eating, drinking, playing and every two hours (also during the night)

-if there is a mishap, clean it thoroughly and don'T punish the dog. it is your fault for not taking it out fast enough to prevent the mishap. (you can buy special cleaners for dog urine...we just cleaned with Mr. Proper and put some vinegar/water-mix on it afterwards)

-learn to read your dogs signals. Most dogs get a bit fidgety when they have to go. keep the dog close you (houseleash) and observe their behaviour as much as possible. as soon as it seems to get nervous: get the dog and bring it outside asap: if you were right and it does its business outside :awesome party.

with slightly over a month, this dog is also way to young to be without mother and siblings, in my opinion. why did you get it so young?
is it a rescue? is the mother dead or hurt?
We got it so young because the owners of the mother had to move to a different country, they should've left 3 months later, but they got the date changed by the company they were working for so it came out like this, not their fault. Making the best of a ****ty situation.

About the dog urine cleaners, we are a bit limited to that because we live in Macedonia, and not any of those enzyme cleaners can be found here, that won't hurt the puppy with its vapors, so we are limited to home solutions, as i heard that mixing baking soda and vinegar could still do the trick.

About the lawn part, is used by another dog that my parents own, which is Westie Terrier and is a female. The Akita puppy is male. Do you think that would be a problem ? Its a fairly big space to choose another spot for himself.

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About the lawn part, is used by another dog that my parents own, which is Westie Terrier and is a female.The Akita puppy is male. Do you think that would be a problem ? Its a fairly big space to choose another spot for himself.

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No that shouldn't be the problem.
perhaps you could even take the other dog with you, sometimes when you go outside with your puppy, so it can learn from the adult.
I hope you are in contact with a vet and the adult westie had all vaccinations, because then it should be okay for your dog to have contact with the westie and learn good dog behaviour from them. :)
dog-to-dog contact is important for a puppy.
if the westie is not up to date with vaccinations, please make sure they're separated and the puppy does not snif on the other dogs' excrements.

Also, when the female is intact, please think about getting your puppy castrated when it is older ( I'd personally wait until it is around 1-1.5, because early castration can lead to health problems). Not only it is better to prevent unwanted puppies, but this kind of combination can be very dangerous for a small female, because of the height and weight difference and the resulting puppies also would very likely have health problems.
 

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No that shouldn't be the problem.
perhaps you could even take the other dog with you, sometimes when you go outside with your puppy, so it can learn from the adult.
I hope you are in contact with a vet and the adult westie had all vaccinations, because then it should be okay for your dog to have contact with the westie and learn good dog behaviour from them. :)
dog-to-dog contact is important for a puppy.
if the westie is not up to date with vaccinations, please make sure they're separated and the puppy does not snif on the other dogs' excrements.

Also, when the female is intact, please think about getting your puppy castrated when it is older ( I'd personally wait until it is around 1-1.5, because early castration can lead to health problems). Not only it is better to prevent unwanted puppies, but this kind of combination can be very dangerous for a small female, because of the height and weight difference and the resulting puppies also would very likely have health problems.
Yes the Westie is in perfect health and has all of the vaccinations in order. I can say that with a 100% certainty. After all is my parents dog, and i sometimes think is more of a person than a dog :).

So even if the puppy doesn't have all of the vaccinations yet, its safe for it to be around a different dog (the Westie is the only one) or in an outside area right ? I should just avoid contact with other dogs that i don't know if they are properly vaccinated or not, right ?

About the castration. I don't know if we want that still as we want to have at least one legacy of the Akita. After that i think it can be castrated. But what are the benefits of this ? The Westie is already castrated so no fear of having accidental puppies with her. But what are the different benefits of castration ?

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Yes the Westie is in perfect health and has all of the vaccinations in order. I can say that with a 100% certainty. After all is my parents dog, and i sometimes think is more of a person than a dog :).

So even if the puppy doesn't have all of the vaccinations yet, its safe for it to be around a different dog (the Westie is the only one) or in an outside area right ? I should just avoid contact with other dogs that i don't know if they are properly vaccinated or not, right ?

About the castration. I don't know if we want that still as we want to have at least one legacy of the Akita. After that i think it can be castrated. But what are the benefits of this ? The Westie is already castrated so no fear of having accidental puppies with her. But what are the different benefits of castration ?

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well the biggest benefit of castration is that the dog can't produce puppies.
behaviour wise it depends on the dog.
I know a lot of dogs, including my own old dog, that didn't change at all after castration, but when you've got a dog with strong sexual drive it can relax the situation and stop it from running away or bringing themself and others in dangerous situations.
i still think this is mostly a question of training, socialisation and management.

Teo was intact until he got cancer (then we got him castrated to remove the cancer). he never showed special interest towards females, in heat or not.
his personality and social behaviour didn't change after castration.
he was still a calm, friendly dog, aloof dog, that prefered people and food over dogs, regardles of the biological sex.
 

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well the biggest benefit of castration is that the dog can't produce puppies.
behaviour wise it depends on the dog.
I know a lot of dogs, including my own old dog, that didn't change at all after castration, but when you've got a dog with strong sexual drive it can relax the situation and stop it from running away or bringing themself and others in dangerous situations.
i still think this is mostly a question of training, socialisation and management.

Teo was intact until he got cancer (then we got him castrated to remove the cancer). he never showed special interest towards females, in heat or not.
his personality and social behaviour didn't change after castration.
he was still a calm, friendly dog, aloof dog, that prefered people and food over dogs, regardles of the biological sex.
Thanks for all the information. You can't imagine how helpful this was. Will get back to you if I have any questions. Hope it wont be a bother.
 

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We are learning slowly that doing potty outside is good and I can already see progress. We have a new problem now... Biting. He starts to bite a lot even when you shout at him to stop and give him a chewing toy so he can chew on that. Sometimes he concentrates on that but when he quickly sees a chance he charges at our feet. I've been told to just shout "OUCH" and to get away from the room for 30 seconds so he knows that is not good to bite and that he loses attention by doing that. But what about outside :) ? I've also been advised not to hit him on the bum, because for Akita's that is not the right method as it can grow into an aggressive dog.

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You don't need to hurt your dog to train it.
you see how the personality of a person really is, in the way they treat children, animals and other people in their care.

training a dog needs time. like... give it a few months.
I think you are on the right track with redirecting to a toy. teach him, that's okay to bite in the toy but not in your hands.
if he continues after 1, 2 times, I'd remove myself from their direct surroundings.
be patient. eventually he will learn it.

making a squeeking sound might work for others, it didn't work for me. Sancho though it was a game and got even more excited when shouting was involved.
staying calm and making the hands more boring than the toy, was my way to go. :)

make also sure that the dog isn't doing this when it is overstimulated. if this is the case. making your dog settle down and nap would be the answer.
A dog normally sleeps up to 20 hours a day.
 

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Yeah i know that i should remove myself but this happens when outside also while playing, i will call for him, he will come and as soon as i start petting him saying things like good boy, rubbing his belly etc. he always goes for the hands with those tiny spike liked teeth he has :) Is it ok if he start to bite too much, to put him in an enclosed pen for 10 mins to calm down, and after that get him out and if he starts doing it again to repeat the process ?
 

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yes, it's okay to put him in a gated area for a while, when the area is safe. :)

while outside, I'd try redirecting. it can take a few weeks or months, but if you stay consequent to will get better. :)
 

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To me, the biting sounds like it could be a result of being separated from mom and litter mates too early. Puppies often roughhouse with each other when they are young, and it's a crucial part of their early socialization. When he bites, try letting loose a high pitched squeak similar to that of what a dog would make when it gets hurt. It lets your dog know that he has "hurt" you and shouldn't do it again. If he stops immediately after you squeak, praise him. In addition, praise your dog when he's playing nicely, and try to play in short bursts so that he doesn't have the chance to escalate to play biting.
 

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Oh goodness yes. If he's going to be eight weeks in three MORE weeks, it's going to be up to you to try to teach him all the lessons he should have learned with his littermates, like watching where he puts his mouth. Even those who get their puppies at the right age of 8-10 weeks, we still go through the 'land shark' phase!

It's possible to train him to go after a toy when he's feeling particularly bitey instead of ankles or hands, it just means waiting for him to go for it and praising him when he does it on his own so he thinks it's his idea. You're a moving object so you're a lot more fun to go after than something that just lays there! You could try tying a small rope to a toy and luring him around with it instead of the tempting delicious ankle.
 
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