[Jaypee]

Hi

I have a 9 year old Maltese who is scared of thunder and lightning. We give her 1ml CBD oil when we hear the Thunder and it does calm her down. Unfortunately we have had nearly 3 days of Storms so there is Thunder every now and then. I gave her 1ml and then again another dose 8 hours later and repeated this, but the problem is the CBD oil wears off before the 8 hours is up, so can I give her more doses. I dont want to overdose and my wife was already worried about my 3 doses per 24 hours.

Anyone know what the max would be per 24hours. She weighs about 12lbs so the 1ml is about right for that weight and the supplier does not say much more than that.

Thanks

Pierre

 

[CachetheBC]

It is my understanding that overdosing on CBD oil (as long as it has no THC) is unlikely.
Can A Dog Overdose On CBD Oil (honestpaws.com)

I have used it both long term for chronic conditions and on an as needed basis, (dosed at 2 mg. CBD per 10 lbs. body weight, twice a day (as per my vet)) for my dogs, and have never run into any problems with it.

 

[Buzzu2]

Hi

I have a 9 year old Maltese who is scared of thunder and lightning. We give her 1ml CBD oil when we hear the Thunder and it does calm her down. Unfortunately we have had nearly 3 days of Storms so there is Thunder every now and then. I gave her 1ml and then again another dose 8 hours later and repeated this, but the problem is the CBD oil wears off before the 8 hours is up, so can I give her more doses. I dont want to overdose and my wife was already worried about my 3 doses per 24 hours.

Anyone know what the max would be per 24hours. She weighs about 12lbs so the 1ml is about right for that weight and the supplier does not say much more than that.

Thanks

Pierre

The dose depends on the amount of CBD contained within the carrier solution.
Ie: The CBD that I have used for my dogs came from an approved legal human dispensary in town, and I used the human weight scale to dose.

Mine contained 1000 mg of CBD per 30ml of solution
I have seen higher concentrations like 2000mg, 5000mg, and even higher per 30ml of solution. The really important thing is to get your CBD from a high quality source, with lab tests to prove what they claim. In Nevada USA, everything sold in a dispensary must be approved by licensed state labs..pesticides, PGRs, mold etc are tested for and the thresholds for contaminants are extremely low.

Initially I began with a smaller dose, and gradually increased it until the desired effects were reached, and then leveled off.
As @CachetheBC said, there does not appear to be any evidence that higher doses would cause an overdose (as long as there was less than .3% THC in the solution. I GUESS that if you gave too much, it MIGHT result in TEMPORARY Somnolence



Real CBD is just one of 500+ Cannabinoids that come from Cannabis Sativa plant. Always look for full spectrum products to take further advantage of the Entourage Effect created by other Cannabinoids. (enhanced effects) Breeders create multiple generations to breed plants that are high in CBD and low in THC..
ie: Charlotte's Web, named after Charlotte Figi (RIP), whose story helped make CBD what it is today.

It appears that there is little to no CBD in industrial hemp.
BTW,,There is no such thing as special pet CBD!

As with all things Cannabis: LESS IS MORE!

 

[Madra Anamchara]

As stated above, "one ml of CBD" is not a measurement of how much CBD you are dispensing. You have to take note of how much CBD is in each ml and let that be your guide, because there are widely varying concentrations of CBD oil.
Another good brand of CBD oil, one I use myself for me and my dog when needed, is Global Xtracts. It comes in various concentrations. Less is always better, so I use the minimum amount that has any effect, but it is true that it would be hard to really overdose on it.

 

[Buzzu2]

I am not sure what products are available in the OP's country, but if there is a choice; I would stay clear of any products that are not accompanied by authentic lab tests, for pesticides, PGRs, (plant growth regulators) mold etc.
If at all possible, I would stay away from any online vendors unless they can post their results from independent laboratories.
If you look for product reviews and find that most are reproductions from the vendor's own site; that is a dead giveaway that all is not as it appears.

CBD has become the snake oil of the century and there are tons of products out there that are not worth your money or potential health ramifications for your dog.

 

[Jaypee]

Thanks for all the advise. I increased her dose a bit and it helped a bit as she was not anxious for a longer period. I am now contacting the supplier for a few answers. We only have 1 registered supplier in South Africa and that is the one I use. If I dont get answers then I will look at importing from the USA.

 

[BusterandDickens]

I am not sure what products are available in the OP's country, but if there is a choice; I would stay clear of any products that are not accompanied by authentic lab tests, for pesticides, PGRs, (plant growth regulators) mold etc.
If at all possible, I would stay away from any online vendors unless they can post their results from independent laboratories.
If you look for product reviews and find that most are reproductions from the vendor's own site; that is a dead giveaway that all is not as it appears.

CBD has become the snake oil of the century and there are tons of products out there that are not worth your money or potential health ramifications for your dog.

Actually most if not all of the CBD sellers on the internet are the manufacturers themselves. At least in the USA. All of the social media platforms prohibit CBD sales/advertising. Paypal will ban any seller for life who uses Paypal to make sales of CBD, . Credit card companies will not give merchant accounts to anyone selling CBD online. You cannot advertise CBD products anywhere on the web. Google ads, will not allow CBD and will ban you if they catch you. I know this because i tried to get into the business. I had to get a high risk merchant account for CBD, with transaction fees three times the normal. and could not find anywhere to advertise. This is why only the manufacturers are able to make it online. Online stores have no chance. There is somewhere between 6 and 10 American manufacturers selling direct to the public online. They all have inspection certificates for potency and purity on their web sites. Amazon carries brands no one has ever heard of before. So yes, ask for their inspection certificates, but there are plenty on the net that do have them. I just sold my entire inventory for 10% below my cost to liquidate it. It was the Pet Releaf brand, which was one of the first five in the USA.

 

[Madra Anamchara]

Actually most if not all of the CBD sellers on the internet are the manufacturers themselves. At least in the USA. All of the social media platforms prohibit CBD sales/advertising. Paypal will ban any seller for life who uses Paypal to make sales of CBD, . Credit card companies will not give merchant accounts to anyone selling CBD online. You cannot advertise CBD products anywhere on the web. Google ads, will not allow CBD and will ban you if they catch you. I know this because i tried to get into the business. I had to get a high risk merchant account for CBD, with transaction fees three times the normal. and could not find anywhere to advertise. This is why only the manufacturers are able to make it online. Online stores have no chance. There is somewhere between 6 and 10 American manufacturers selling direct to the public online. They all have inspection certificates for potency and purity on their web sites. Amazon carries brands no one has ever heard of before. So yes, ask for their inspection certificates, but there are plenty on the net that do have them. I just sold my entire inventory for 10% below my cost to liquidate it. It was the Pet Releaf brand, which was one of the first five in the USA.

This is confusing to me.
Those things are true of THC products, because those products are not legal across all states in the US. But this is not true of CBD products that do not contain THC, which are sold online every day and you can pay for them with a credit card. There are hundreds of companies selling CBD products (that do not contain THC) on the internet, and you can find them through Google searches that will list all the websites where these products are sold. I am wondering how your statements could be true when anyone can order CBD oil online any day. I've done it, and other people I know do it, and there is no problem. Can you explain how this works in light of your statements about it?

 

[BusterandDickens]

This is confusing to me.
Those things are true of THC products, because those products are not legal across all states in the US. But this is not true of CBD products that do not contain THC, which are sold online every day and you can pay for them with a credit card. There are hundreds of companies selling CBD products (that do not contain THC) on the internet, and you can find them through Google searches that will list all the websites where these products are sold. I am wondering how your statements could be true when anyone can order CBD oil online any day. I've done it, and other people I know do it, and there is no problem. Can you explain how this works in light of your statements about it?

This has nothing to do with THC. Or whats legal. The credit card companies consider it a product that has unproven claims and is afraid people who buy it would ask for their money back...a high level of chargebacks. Thats why it is considered a high risk market, Brick and mortar stores are less scrutinized and the credit card companies could care less about them. Its actually the same with many vitamin/supplements and things like that. Its hard sometimes to advertise those products as well. This goes for any CBD product for people or pets. They are not using paypal, and they cannot advertise on google or anywhere else. Most reley on email advertising. If they take credit cards they have a high risk account and are paying through the nose for it

 

[Madra Anamchara]

This has nothing to do with THC. Or whats legal. The credit card companies consider it a product that has unproven claims and is afraid people who buy it would ask for their money back...a high level of chargebacks. Thats why it is considered a high risk market, Brick and mortar stores are less scrutinized and the credit card companies could care less about them. Its actually the same with many vitamin/supplements and things like that. Its hard sometimes to advertise those products as well.

OK......but you say in your previous post :

"All of the social media platforms prohibit CBD sales/advertising. Paypal will ban any seller for life who uses Paypal to make sales of CBD, . Credit card companies will not give merchant accounts to anyone selling CBD online. You cannot advertise CBD products anywhere on the web. "

But, you can find CBD advertised on facebook. (social media)
You can not only advertise CBD products online, it's easy to find places to order CBD products online for animals and for people.
Petsmart sells CBD products for pets in their online store, for instance. Payment by credit card.
Amazon has many vendors who sell CBD products. Payment by credit card.
Vendors on EBay sell CBD products, payment by PayPal. Or credit card.
And as I mentioned, there are hundreds of websites online that sell CBD for people.
Obviously if you can buy it online you can use a credit card, although of course not all online stores offer payment with paypal.

So, your statements above are not accurate.

 

[Buzzu2]

Things have changed since the Farm Bill passed

There are a lot of vendors taking Credit Cards.

These Are The Best Services For CBD Merchant Processing

The providers in this list are the best options for getting a CBD merchant account. They have fast approvals, competitive rates, and highly...

www.cardpaymentoptions.com

As far as inspections go; I will only trust state certified labs like those in my state of Nevada, and even those can apparently be bought.
The ONLY reason I don't grow CBD FULL SPECTRUM (not industrial hemp) plants is that the testing is way beyond my budget for a home grower. I would only grow a CBD strain for my dogs as CBD does nothing for me, and I would have no way of identifying THC content on my own. This is the only reason that I buy CBD for the dogs (IF I need it) from a licensed dispensary here.

Marijuana lab suspended after state finds ‘misleading’ THC results

Certified Ag Labs, a marijuana testing facility in Sparks, became the first lab to have its state license suspended after the state announced it was investigating cannabis labs.

www.reviewjournal.com

Marijuana sold in Nevada failed yeast and mold testing, board says

The board said people with suppressed immune systems should especially be careful not to use the marijuana.

www.kolotv.com

Most of the "testing reports" that I see online never mention testing for pesticides, PGRs and mold. They just go out of their way to say that potency and lack of THC are tested. Nevada state labs are required to test for the above, as well as potency checks etc.

Edit: In fact, I rarely see an actual report PUBLISHED to justify their claims!

Here is only one example of a CBD company selling internationally and taking CCs.

Buy CBD Online - CBD Oil, Gummies, Vapes & More - Just CBD Store

If your looking for CBD products or CBD+HC products look no further then JustCBD. With a wide range of CBD products to fit anyone's needs. Shop Today!

justcbdstore.com

One of my THC rich grows; grown legally under Nevada revised statutes (NRS)

 

[toedtoes]

@BusterandDickens Thanks for the clarification. As the FDA has not approved CBD for treatment I can see how this could be a problem.

 

[toedtoes]

@Madra Anamchara do a search on "can I use Paypal to process payments for my cbd product" and you'll find lots of confirmation.

 

[Buzzu2]

@BusterandDickens Thanks for the clarification. As the FDA has not approved CBD for treatment I can see how this could be a problem.

Are you aware that the FDA (via HHS) owns a patent on cannabinoids for certain medicinal uses?

Patent Public Search | USPTO

patft.uspto.gov

https://uspatent6630507.com

Pot & Patents: How the Federal Government has Monopolized Marijuana

The growing conflict between America’s drug enforcement policies and the federal government’s control of the marijuana-based pharmaceutical market is laden with contradictions and a healthy dose of bureaucratic hypocrisy. On one side of the conflict is the Department of Health and Human...

campbelllawobserver.com

Talk about hypocrisy!

 

[Buzzu2]

@Madra Anamchara do a search on "can I use Paypal to process payments for my cbd product" and you'll find lots of confirmation.

Paypal bans a lot of things..right or wrong, to keep themselves out of trouble with the feds.
Our dispensaries were set upon by the FDA for selling "pet CBD" products so they stopped; since they didn't want the FDA messing with them. It simply was not worth their trouble.

Here is a Petsmart ad for a CBD product where you can use a CC in person in a brick and mortar store.

Mary's Tails CBD Hemp Extract Tincture, Bacon Flavor, 150mg or 300mg | dog Vitamins & Supplements | PetSmart

Mary's Tails CBD Hemp Extract Tincture, Bacon Flavor, 150mg or 300mg at PetSmart. Shop all dog vitamins & supplements online

www.petsmart.com

Petco too: (online or in person)

https://www.petco.com/shop/en/petcostore/category/dog/dog-health-and-wellness/dog-vitamins/cbd-for-dogs

 

[BusterandDickens]

This is confusing to me.
Those things are true of THC products, because those products are not legal across all states in the US. But this is not true of CBD products that do not contain THC, which are sold online every day and you can pay for them with a credit card. There are hundreds of companies selling CBD products (that do not contain THC) on the internet, and you can find them through Google searches that will list all the websites where these products are sold. I am wondering how your statements could be true when anyone can order CBD oil online any day. I've done it, and other people I know do it, and there is no problem. Can you explain how this works in light of your statements about it?

OK......but you say in your previous post :

"All of the social media platforms prohibit CBD sales/advertising. Paypal will ban any seller for life who uses Paypal to make sales of CBD, . Credit card companies will not give merchant accounts to anyone selling CBD online. You cannot advertise CBD products anywhere on the web. "

But, you can find CBD advertised on facebook. (social media)
You can not only advertise CBD products online, it's easy to find places to order CBD products online for animals and for people.
Petsmart sells CBD products for pets in their online store, for instance. Payment by credit card.
Amazon has many vendors who sell CBD products. Payment by credit card.
Vendors on EBay sell CBD products, payment by PayPal. Or credit card.
And as I mentioned, there are hundreds of websites online that sell CBD for people.
Obviously if you can buy it online you can use a credit card, although of course not all online stores offer payment with paypal.

So, your statements above are not accurate.

No. Thats not true, and I don't think you are understanding what I am saying. Ebay does not sell CBD. Amazon does. But people claim its not full spectrum and not lad tested. FACEBOOK absolutely does not advertise CBD products. They are kicking people off for trying. The major credit card companies will NOT allow CBD sales and classify it as too high risk. There are high risk credit card accounts and two or three companies that offer it . But the store is paying 3 times the cost to offer it. I guess that makes no difference to the consumer, but for a small store its a big deal. A year ago Facebook starting running some select CBD ads from companies with a lot of money, but then pulled them when people like me complained to them that they were playing favorites with these big companies while prohibiting others. There are not hundreds of stores selling CBD. If you do not believe me ASK PAYPAL if you can sell CBD using paypal. They are banning anyone who tries and closing all their paypal accounts linked to their name. It happened to two people i know. I am not going to argue the point any further. I was only trying to say that most of the companies selling online in the USA are manufacturers and have the lab tests and certifications. I am willing to bet PETCO and Petsmart do not sell it online either, but I don't care enough to go look. Twitter, Pinterest, snapchat Facebook, nextdooor, all will not accept CBD advertising. I tried them all. Google banned me when I posted a CBD ad. For Life. no warning no nothing. Twitter gave me a warning. Snapchat asked me what i was selling and told me no way.

 

[Buzzu2]

No. Thats not true, and I don't think you are understanding what I am saying. Ebay does not sell CBD. Amazon does. But people claim its not full spectrum and not lad tested. FACEBOOK absolutely does not advertise CBD products. They are kicking people off for trying. The major credit card companies will NOT allow CBD sales and classify it as too high risk. There are high risk credit card accounts and two or three companies that offer it . But the store is paying 3 times the cost to offer it. I guess that makes no difference to the consumer, but for a small store its a big deal. A year ago Facebook starting running some select CBD ads from companies with a lot of money, but then pulled them when people like me complained to them that they were playing favorites with these big companies while prohibiting others. There are not hundreds of stores selling CBD. If you do not believe me ASK PAYPAL if you can sell CBD using paypal. They are banning anyone who tries and closing all their paypal accounts linked to their name. It happened to two people i know. I am not going to argue the point any further. I was only trying to say that most of the companies selling online in the USA are manufacturers and have the lab tests and certifications. I am willing to bet PETCO and Petsmart do not sell it online either, but I don't care enough to go look.

Paypal also bans the sale of high capacity gun magazines, which are still not illegal federally; but are illegal in a handful of states) to stay out of potential trouble with the feds. The last company on earth that wants more scrutiny is Paypal.

 

[toedtoes]

@Buzzu2 I'm just sharing what I found online. I'm not arguing on the logic of any of it.

 

[Buzzu2]

@Buzzu2 I'm just sharing what I found online. I'm not arguing on the logic of any of it.

I jumped because I am passionate about all things cannabis, and have a "thing" for bad information/, and I only rediscovered it 5 yrs ago. Back in the day, we had no idea that it could be good for anything except fun.

I was astonished when Nevada legalized recreationally in 2016. Prior to that it was a total hassle to even get an MMJ card (MMJ was legalized in 2012). There were roadblocks everywhere when I tried and a six month wait.
I had abstained for over 35 yrs to protect a high paying job in the gaming industry. After retirement, I had to be put on a regimen of opioids by my doctor (10 yrs worth) for 24x7 pain. They barely took the edge off my pain and eventually would have killed me. A side benefit is that I sleep like a kid again...I kid you not.

I discovered the medicinal benefits of cannabis quite by accident, after I was able to purchase Cannabis products legally. After 30 days I was able to dump the opioids and never looked back. Afterwards, I realized that this new medicine was pretty easy to grow myself and saved a fortune.
I usually grow indoors since the plant is more easily controlled in a grow tent. Aside from the medical value, growing has been great therapy as well.

I had one dog whose life was extended by 6 months after giving up on prescribed meds, and I tried dispensary CBD as a last resort. Alas, nothing can cure old age, but she did very well those last 6 months.
If testing wer not so expensive, I would definitely be growing CBD rich plants for future use with my dogs.
I have the seeds on hand as well. CBD has become so profitable that many cannabis seed banks give them away with a regular seed order. Otherwise I would not have bought any CBD strain seeds.

. One problem is the existence of false information that proliferates the net. It is wise to get as many sources as possible before making a decision. Since the FDA has effectively banned all things cannabis (except their own), studies in the USA have ground to a halt in favor of the drug companies doing their thing overseas..Like South America and Israel for example

I can't wrap my head around the schedule one designation ("having no medicinal value") yet their own a patent on the very same thing. This is why I find the FDA's position so abhorrent, since their own patent was issued in 2003

One of my favorite strains grown indoors.

 

[Madra Anamchara]

No. Thats not true, and I don't think you are understanding what I am saying. Ebay does not sell CBD. Amazon does. But people claim its not full spectrum and not lad tested. FACEBOOK absolutely does not advertise CBD products. They are kicking people off for trying. The major credit card companies will NOT allow CBD sales and classify it as too high risk. There are high risk credit card accounts and two or three companies that offer it . But the store is paying 3 times the cost to offer it. I guess that makes no difference to the consumer, but for a small store its a big deal. A year ago Facebook starting running some select CBD ads from companies with a lot of money, but then pulled them when people like me complained to them that they were playing favorites with these big companies while prohibiting others. There are not hundreds of stores selling CBD. If you do not believe me ASK PAYPAL if you can sell CBD using paypal. They are banning anyone who tries and closing all their paypal accounts linked to their name. It happened to two people i know. I am not going to argue the point any further. I was only trying to say that most of the companies selling online in the USA are manufacturers and have the lab tests and certifications. I am willing to bet PETCO and Petsmart do not sell it online either, but I don't care enough to go look. Twitter, Pinterest, snapchat Facebook, nextdooor, all will not accept CBD advertising. I tried them all. Google banned me when I posted a CBD ad. For Life. no warning no nothing. Twitter gave me a warning. Snapchat asked me what i was selling and told me no way.

OK, I think I got a few things wrong.
I assumed that facebook allowed it because I know that they used to, didn't know they changed that. I don't do facebook myself, so probably shouldn't have thought I knew anything about that. I thought EBay sold it but I guess they don't, so I got that wrong. Sorry.

here are links to the Petsmart and Petco website pages where you can get CBD products:

Search Results | PetSmart

www.petsmart.com

Search Results

www.petco.com

Still, it is clear to me that you know more about this than I do, so I will take your word for this. The voice of experience is usually the one to listen to.

This is not really on topic, exactly, but....
While it is apparently true that credit card companies don't like to sell accounts to businesses that sell CBD and so they charge high prices, I don't think they hold very high standards in other ways.

For instance I recently found an ad online from someone selling a cheap piece of plastic and metal jewelry for $150 because she said it had the spirit of a Werewolf trapped inside it. SHE had a merchant credit card account. So those card companies are being perhaps a bit arbitrary in their choosing who can have an account based on the reliability of claims that the seller makes!