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Hey,

I have recently purchased a puppy sold by a confused seller. I was first informed that it is a Malinois puppy. Later he had a doubt as to whether or not the father was a Malinois. Finally, he called me to tell me that the father was a German Shepherd.

We love the pup and have named her Nala. But, we would be very glad to find some information about her breed.

Please help us to identify the breed to train her accordingly.

If you need more pictures or any information. Please do not hesitate to ask questions or request files.

Thanks in advance!

Zak
 

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They're a breed that look very similar so it's hard to tell, but I can definitely see the German shepherd in her! Cute puppy :)
 

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doesn't look like pure Mali, but it could very well be a Schäfimix. :)
I think basic training probably doesn't differ so much between the different Shepherd breeds.
If you feel insecure, asking a local dog sports club can help, because a lot of the people there own Belgian Shepherds, Hollandse Herder or Schäfis and/or are experienced with these breeds.

regardless of the breed, in my opinion, for the first weeks, the most important things should be: building up the relationship with your dog, make sure that it is healthy (vet visit), socialise it with healthy dogs that are okay with puppies, make sure that the dog learns how to calm down.
 

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Are you currently in possession of this puppy? If you are, this seller was bad. A puppy should remain with mom/litter until at least 8 weeks, but 10-12 is much better, so you should read up on positive socialization experiences.

I see more GSD than Malinois, but at that age it is pretty hard to tell. How much does she weigh?
 

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Hello both,

Thanks for responding. Do you think there is a bit of Mal too?
Will this pup grow up to be a guard dog?

We took her to a vet already, she is very healthy. Unfortunately the vet couldnt tell me about the breed.

Can you also guess her age?

At the end of the day she is a part of our family now. But, we would like to find out more about her.
 

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Hello Shand,

He was definitely a pr**ck as he had her when she was younger (I'm guessing 3-4 weeks)

If a mix what breeds do you see?

Thanks for your valuable opinion all!

Zak
 

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She's too young to tell exactly what she is. Talk to your vet and ask what their estimate is on age. It's easiest to tell in real life with teeth and body structure. Please make sure she gets proper food for her age and medical care, and socialization with people and vaccinated, friendly sogs and puppies. Dogs taken from their mom too young can develop behavioral problems, especially with other dogs and knowing how hard or soft to bite. And do you want her to be a guard dog? Some dogs even of a 'guard dog' breed do not make good ones. I also suggest you read the thread on dog forum on guard dogs.
 

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Being a German shepherd or Malinois doesn't guarantee a guard or protection dog. Being taken from the litter too young can mean bad news in the behavioral world so make sure she had lots of good experiences with people and other dogs. Aggressiveness can be a product of being taken from mom too early.

If you're actually interested in a guard or protection dog then you'll have to put in a ton of time money and effort. Contact a good shutzhund trainer if you're serious but don't attempt to train yourself, that can be dangerous. Especially if your dog doesn't know the difference between intruder and grandma. Grandma might get pummeled by a 80 pound German shepherd if you train to "protect" blindly.

Also, don't expect her to do any protecting or guarding without formal training just based on her breed.
 

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Not a purebred for sure. It's not impossible that the puppy is a mix, but honestly I don't really see much if any malinois. Ears don't always stand up at this age, but the ear set looks too far/wide to the sides of the head and oriented to the side. And the skull/muzzle shape is off, mals don't have a very pronounced stop. Also the coat looks a bit too wooly to me.
 

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Hello everyone,

Check up with vet: completed
Vaccinations: in a week
First walk outside: after the vaccinations according to the vet
I have a couple of dogs in the building compound which I'm planning on socializing my dog with.
I have had a German shepherd when I was a teenager, I'm aware of the behavior problems that might occur with the shepherd breed.

We live in a very calm area so guarding will not be necessary. But, I would like Nala to follow and develop her natural instincts. We are planning on socializing her with a lot of people and other dogs in the society.

Current accomplishments: we taught her how to poo and pee in the potty litter box.

What do you think this pup looks like ?
Is it possibly a mix of GSD and Malinois?
Will she grow up to be a big dog?
How about the ears what shape will they take?

Thanks everyone for responding!

Peace

Zak
 

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Current accomplishments: we taught her how to poo and pee in the potty litter box.

What do you think this pup looks like ?
Is it possibly a mix of GSD and Malinois?
Will she grow up to be a big dog?
How about the ears what shape will they take?
It's good she's getting housetrained! But do you want her to use a litter box as an adult too? If not, train her to use outside instead. It's hard for dogs to understand going both inside in a box/wee wee pad and outside.

Is it possible she's a GSD/Malinois? Right now, maybe. But I wouldn't get your hopes up. I can tell you're really excited about your new puppy but really, there is *no* way to know for sure what she will look like, how big she will be, or what her ears will look like. If her ears are going to stand up they should start to stand up within the next month. When she's 4 months old, double her weight and that's probably how big she will be as an adult. But really unless you do a DNA test, everything now is guesswork. Just keep up the good work socializing and training her. And make SURE that the other dogs you introduce her to are very friendly and good with puppies (some adult dogs don't like puppies even if they like other adult dogs).
 

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I think that as she will get older you will be able to tell more. Right now I would say there might be some cross overs. Cute puppy :)
 

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Bad breeder, bad seller, poor consumer. Cute puppie.

Who knows honestly. You can have a DNA test done.

When people don't acquire puppies via reputable breeders, it puts money in the pockets of people that prob have no business selling/breeding dogs in the first place and encourages them to continue to do so. Big part of the reason shelters have to put down millions of dogs every year in US alone.

How much did you pay for this pup of questionable origins? If you don't mind my asking.

Please don't take me as coming off as an a-hole. I'm not calling you a bad person for being a mis-informed consumer. Not everyone realises that puppy mills are real. That many people that sell pets are doing it for money and see them as a commodity and not a precious life. I could rant on and on but really don't want to be a downer.

Grats on your new puppy. Give it a good home and provide it with a good life and you'll be a super hero in my book.
 

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Heyya,

Thanks to all of you for your time and help.
Tracie, a puppy at the age of Nala has a very small bladder so taking her outside every 1-2 hours will be very difficult. We are planning on litter training until 3 months of age and then switch to toilet training. I'm planning on ordering the seat which is required (we have 4 toilets in the house so don't worry)

The guy I bought it from was a complete a hole and reading his advert online. My first concern was saving the puppy!

People here in Kuwait buy dogs for all the wrong reasons. So, Nala's breed at that time was not my primary concern.

We are having a lot of fun with her and are hoping for her to grow up soon. At the end of the day she is a new member of our family and that's what really matters.

We are feeding her puppy chow and are keeping her hydrated at all times. We are planning on introducing her to the neighborhood dogs (the kind ones) and our friends once she gets vaccinated.

Any further info on Nala will be appreciated.

Peace and love

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Awesome! I always wanted to train our dogs to use the toilet but my wife said no... She said it was bad enough she had to share the toilets with me LOL.

You are right she is a new family member now and that's great. Sounds like she is in about as good a place as she could hope for. She doesn't look a whole lot like the Malinois pups I've seen but it might have been a small blessing if she takes after her GSD daddy. Malinois are extremely hyper/drivey compared to the GSD's I've worked with. Malinois aren't the best "pets" IMO. GSD can be great companions though in my experience.
 

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We are a pretty active/hyper family ourselves. We are into a lot of sports and outdoor activities. Moreover, we are 7 people living in the house. Which means Nala will always have someone to spend her time and play with.

I have attached an image of Nala's first home to give you an idea (zoom in to find her)

PS it was the warmest place in the house.
http://imgur.com/a/bZFmi
 

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