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Hello everyone
So I found Malanois pupy on a road...run away or dropped by someone...
I took it, brought it to vet.They Said its 2 monts old healty puppy.
So since nobody anawered searching for him I wanted to keep him
Btw my german shepherd died month ago at age 14.
So i have some experience and love dogs, but this Malanois is crazy so much.But on the other hand in this few days He’s gone very fond for me that I can’t belive it.
Chasing cats, barking, doesn’t listen (expect to me, but when he is distracted not so much, can’t stop him when he starta to chase small animals)which is normal since he is so young, but since i dont have any Experience with Malanois I dont want to expect, is this behaviour normal or not.
Or Is he for me or not. I want to give him my time and energy but dont know what to expect
Any advice would be welcome :)
 

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How old is he now, how long have you had him?

Malinois are intelligent, driven dogs that do need a lot of stimulation and training.

To stop him chasing cats and other small animals, and to keep him safe, he needs to be on a lead for now. Maybe a long line but attach it to a harness for safety, never a collar as he could damage his throat if he runs and gets stopped suddenly.

When you say he doesn't listen, in my experience there are three main reasons why a dog doesn't do as we ask.

First, he doesn't understand, so that is a training issue, you need to teach him.

Second, the reward, benefit or motivation of doing what he is doing is greater than the reward, benefit or motivation of doing what you are asking, so you need to make what you are asking far, far more attractive. That could be by upping the reward, or by making sure that you are the best thing in his universe. There is a famous trainer, I can never remember which one, whose motto is BMFI - be more f*****g interesting).

Third, you are working against a deeply rooted breed trait - there is a reason why we don't use terriers to herd sheep. It can be done but it is a lot harder.

Maybe start with one thing at a time - if you tell us what you are trying to train, perhaps we could help. Also, there are some excellent videos on YouTube by a dog trainer called Kikopup who has videos on everything from basic training to cool tricks.
 

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Malanois are quite common here so Ive seen the good the bad and the ugly side of them.

They need someone who is firm not harsh, and wont let them get away with chasing or grabbing. They will chase and kill cats and even small dogs. My own dog was grabbed by a mal and only the intervention of my friend's larger dog stopped any damage being done.

However if they are given good training and taught good manners then they can be the most wonderful dogs. Korack ( a dog we knew) lived until he was 15 and he was such a gentle loving dog.. He had the best temprement of any dog Ive met.

So stick with it use some good positive training and you should have a wondeful friend for life
 

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I Had him for 4 days.
I know its not a lot, but already I reckognized what kind of a dog it is...
Most imortant thing that I want him to teach him is to be friendly and not to be dangerous to people...
He is OK to with that except when someone raise voice on him. After doing research on them on internet maybe I got a little cautious.
I gues I want to know if this behaviour is normal for Belgians, like bitting, barking, being stubborn...
 

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So he is very young, only about 10 weeks old.

He isn't being stubborn - he simply doesn't understand what you are asking him. Imagine telling a one year old child to do something, in a foreign language; it's very similar. So please don't think he is doing this deliberately, he isn't. To help him understand you need to teach him.

Start with something like a sit, that will give you and him a nice easy win and that will encourage both of you.

Hold a treat in your hand, let him sniff and as he does that move it slightly up and back over his head. As his head comes up, his bottom will go down on the floor. As it hits the floor say ”sit” and immediately give the treat. Repeat 5 times then take a break. Do that 5 times in the day (so 5 x 5).


Behaviour like biting and barking is normal for puppies - not particularly for malinois.

For the biting, this is just an extension of the boisterous play he had with his littermates but he needs to learn this is not how to play with humans. Some people find a sharp 'ouch' works but it can just ramp up the excitement. Some people find putting a toy in the dog's mouth works, others find the puppy is still more interested in nipping hands. My preferred method is to teach him that teeth on skin equals end of fun. So as soon as he makes contact, walk out of the room for a few moments. As long as the whole family is consistent - do it immediately and do it every time - he will learn. You could use a house line to draw him away, which keeps your hands both out of reach and also keeps hands for only good things.

For the barking, do you know why he is barking? Because that would be helpful in working out how to stop it.
 

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So he is very young, only about 10 weeks old.

He isn't being stubborn - he simply doesn't understand what you are asking him. Imagine telling a one year old child to do something, in a foreign language; it's very similar. So please don't think he is doing this deliberately, he isn't. To help him understand you need to teach him.

Start with something like a sit, that will give you and him a nice easy win and that will encourage both of you.

Hold a treat in your hand, let him sniff and as he does that move it slightly up and back over his head. As his head comes up, his bottom will go down on the floor. As it hits the floor say ”sit” and immediately give the treat. Repeat 5 times then take a break. Do that 5 times in the day (so 5 x 5).


Behaviour like biting and barking is normal for puppies - not particularly for malinois.

For the biting, this is just an extension of the boisterous play he had with his littermates but he needs to learn this is not how to play with humans. Some people find a sharp 'ouch' works but it can just ramp up the excitement. Some people find putting a toy in the dog's mouth works, others find the puppy is still more interested in nipping hands. My preferred method is to teach him that teeth on skin equals end of fun. So as soon as he makes contact, walk out of the room for a few moments. As long as the whole family is consistent - do it immediately and do it every time - he will learn. You could use a house line to draw him away, which keeps your hands both out of reach and also keeps hands for only good things.

For the barking, do you know why he is barking? Because that would be helpful in working out how to stop it.
He start’s barking when he sees a cat, dog or any animal.
Especially at home, Like chickens,cat.
And we live in a country side with a lot od space and neighbourds Dogs and cats so its a lot of distraction for him.
And he started to bark at mygrandmother wich started Like this: it was thundering one day and my grad mother is afraid so She screams, then dog got nervous at her for screaming and starts to bark at her...
So now he starts to bark at her sometimes.
Its na issue i would Like to resolve
 

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That's quite an easy one - it sounds like he is just getting excited, so simply take him away from the thing that he is barking at and do a little training exercise so he focuses on you, and not the other things like the cats or your grandmother. When she screamed he probably thought it was exciting so maybe ask her not to do that?

You could also train him to be quiet, these videos will help.

 

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That's quite an easy one - it sounds like he is just getting excited, so simply take him away from the thing that he is barking at and do a little training exercise so he focuses on you, and not the other things like the cats or your grandmother. When she screamed he probably thought it was exciting so maybe ask her not to do that?

You could also train him to be quiet, these videos will help.

Thanks a lot for advice
I really am thankfull...
And one question more if its not problem
I trained Germab shepherd but never Malinois.
So could you give me some advice in how should a training Look Like...duration, and activity like walking at this age, since we go for a walk 2,3 times day and swiming once.
I really wouldnt want to make mistake in raising this puppy
 

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For exercise, nothing too intense until his skeleton is fully formed, so not too much jumping, twisting (such as chasing balls) and running on hard ground. You could still roll a ball for him but not too hard and fast.

For walking, there is a recommendation of five minutes per month of age but it really is just a guide.

But, can I just suggest he may not be a Malinois? At 10 weeks, it would be virtually impossible to know if you didn't know his parents. Not that it matters, but don't get too hung up on breed traits, just work with the dog in front of you, not the dog you think he might be.
 

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Sorry, I missed earlier that you said you want him to be friendly and not dangerous.

So, it will be important to socialise him over the next six weeks - the timing is very important because at 16 weeks his brain starts to develop differently.

Socialisation is not about everyone and every dog meeting him. Think quality, not quantity, exposure, not interaction. Letting lots of people and dogs near a puppy can be overwhelming and frightening - the opposite of what you want. Control the socialisation by being selective, especially with other dogs and kids. Look for calm role model dogs, and adults and children who can be trusted not to get over excited. Socialisation is not about plunging your puppy into every new experience, but rather allowing him to see, hear and get used to people and situations calmly and from a safe position. There is quite a good checklist here - it wouldn't be practical, or necessary to get everything on the list but it's a good guideline and illustrates that socialisation is about more than just having a run around with other dogs.

The Puppy Socialization Exposure Checklist - Whole Dog Journal
 

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For exercise, nothing too intense until his skeleton is fully formed, so not too much jumping, twisting (such as chasing balls) and running on hard ground. You could still roll a ball for him but not too hard and fast.

For walking, there is a recommendation of five minutes per month of age but it really is just a guide.

But, can I just suggest he may not be a Malinois? At 10 weeks, it would be virtually impossible to know if you didn't know his parents. Not that it matters, but don't get too hung up on breed traits, just work with the dog in front of you, not the dog you think he might be.
For exercise, nothing too intense until his skeleton is fully formed, so not too much jumping, twisting (such as chasing balls) and running on hard ground. You could still roll a ball for him but not too hard and fast.

For walking, there is a recommendation of five minutes per month of age but it really is just a guide.

But, can I just suggest he may not be a Malinois? At 10 weeks, it would be virtually impossible to know if you didn't know his parents. Not that it matters, but don't get too hung up on breed traits, just work with the dog in front of you, not the dog you think he might be.
For exercise, nothing too intense until his skeleton is fully formed, so not too much jumping, twisting (such as chasing balls) and running on hard ground. You could still roll a ball for him but not too hard and fast.

For walking, there is a recommendation of five minutes per month of age but it really is just a guide.

But, can I just suggest he may not be a Malinois? At 10 weeks, it would be virtually impossible to know if you didn't know his parents. Not that it matters, but don't get too hung up on breed traits, just work with the dog in front of you, not the dog you think he might be.
Sorry, I missed earlier that you said you want him to be friendly and not dangerous.

So, it will be important to socialise him over the next six weeks - the timing is very important because at 16 weeks his brain starts to develop differently.

Socialisation is not about everyone and every dog meeting him. Think quality, not quantity, exposure, not interaction. Letting lots of people and dogs near a puppy can be overwhelming and frightening - the opposite of what you want. Control the socialisation by being selective, especially with other dogs and kids. Look for calm role model dogs, and adults and children who can be trusted not to get over excited. Socialisation is not about plunging your puppy into every new experience, but rather allowing him to see, hear and get used to people and situations calmly and from a safe position. There is quite a good checklist here - it wouldn't be practical, or necessary to get everything on the list but it's a good guideline and illustrates that socialisation is about more than just having a run around with other dogs.

The Puppy Socialization Exposure Checklist - Whole Dog Journal
Thanks..Will do...
So I should keep him on a leash to stop running for my cats for beginning. And work on simple teachings and excercise’s and socialization.
Yeah and one more thing 🤣
When he sees a cat, when he is not on leash in my courtyard he rushes for it, its seems like he is unstopabble in his intention when he something decides.
At that point he doesn’t listen when i call IT back....but when we Are alone he listens to quite a lot, like sit and come. What could I do to adress this?
So again sorry for maybe putting same questions but i know now is a crucial time to start doing on those things.
And yeah its really last question 😂
 

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Ask as many questions as you like, that's what we are here for.

So, yes, keep him on leash for now so chasing cats doesn't become a habit. Chasing cats is a really, really exciting thing for many dogs but (a) the cat could get seriously injured and (b) the cat could also injure the dog. So if he is not on leash, check the yard before he goes out. If you can't do that, always have him on leash until you have taught him to recall or stay with you (and that is weeks of training away).
 

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Ask as many questions as you like, that's what we are here for.

So, yes, keep him on leash for now so chasing cats doesn't become a habit. Chasing cats is a really, really exciting thing for many dogs but (a) the cat could get seriously injured and (b) the cat could also injure the dog. So if he is not on leash, check the yard before he goes out. If you can't do that, always have him on leash until you have taught him to recall or stay with you (and that is weeks of training away).
Ok
Thanks very much
Btw heres the picture
Vet Said He’s 2 months old, max 2,5
And he said he knows Because he has one Belgian at home so i guess i have to trust him
 

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Someone must be looking for the puppy. What have you tried so far to find where it came from. Was there a microchip. Have you looked on social media in your local area. Have you called every pound and vet in surrounding areas? It could have been stolen then dumped. Is there any malanois breeders around you who may have heard of a lost puppy.
 

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Someone must be looking for the puppy. What have you tried so far to find where it came from. Was there a microchip. Have you looked on social media in your local area. Have you called every pound and vet in surrounding areas? It could have been stolen then dumped. Is there any malanois breeders around you who may have heard of a lost puppy.
Where I live there is not much
Didn’t have a collar when found
him by the road...
Took him to vet, no microchip, nothing...
Someone must be looking for the puppy. What have you tried so far to find where it came from. Was there a microchip. Have you looked on social media in your local area. Have you called every pound and vet in surrounding areas? It could have been stolen then dumped. Is there any malanois breeders around you who may have heard of a lost puppy.
There’s no Pound in my area... We live in a small village,online one vet, wich is about 10 miles , the other is miles away.
Dog when found didn’t have a collar, took him to vet, no microchip.?!
 

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Well as long as you have done everything you can to find the owner.. Checking for a chip (he doesnt have one) seeing if there are any lost dog posters or ads locally..

The law here says that after 30 days hes legally yours. Not sure how it is in your area, be careful it would be awful to get attached only to have his owner come out of the woodwork and claim him back.
 

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Well as long as you have done everything you can to find the owner.. Checking for a chip (he doesnt have one) seeing if there are any lost dog posters or ads locally..

The law here says that after 30 days hes legally yours. Not sure how it is in your area, be careful it would be awful to get attached only to have his owner come out of the woodwork and claim him back.
I know...but what should I do?
The dog already became so attached to me,like it was mine always.
I can’t give him in some shelter or something Like that.And while he is with me i can’t leave him tied up all day
 
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