[Sooks]

My duck toller, Luna has been jumping over fences. not really jumping but climbing. I don't know why she does this. I think it may be separation anxiety. So here goes the detail: We thought of a easier way to house train Luna; by buying a X-pen and placing her in it. The x-pens are really expensive. Around 70 dollars for 18 inches. Anyways, as usual she whines for a long time when we leave her in her crate. She seems comfortable outside so we place her x-pen outside so she can go in that, run around and go to the bathroom in it and be more comforatble. Apparently not. my kitchen window is above the outdoor x-pen. I leave Luna in the xpen with water, toys, chew toys, and a small towel then I head upstairs to watch her from the kitchen window. She cries, and throws herself at the xpen, puts her paws on the top, and amazingly hops over. It is three times her size!! We decide to get a 25 inch x-pen thinking, there is NO way she can get over this. But there is a way. She hooks her paws through the fencing, and climbs onto it and hops over.
Finally we try a 30 inch. She gets over.
Can someone help me? If you seriously don't believe me I am willing to take a video.

 

[BoxLove]

How old is she and how much physical/mental exercise does she get?

 

[Criosphynx]

My duck toller, Luna has been jumping over fences. not really jumping but climbing. I don't know why she does this. I think it may be separation anxiety. So here goes the detail: We thought of a easier way to house train Luna; by buying a X-pen and placing her in it. The x-pens are really expensive. Around 70 dollars for 18 inches. Anyways, as usual she whines for a long time when we leave her in her crate. She seems comfortable outside so we place her x-pen outside so she can go in that, run around and go to the bathroom in it and be more comforatble. Apparently not. my kitchen window is above the outdoor x-pen. I leave Luna in the xpen with water, toys, chew toys, and a small towel then I head upstairs to watch her from the kitchen window. She cries, and throws herself at the xpen, puts her paws on the top, and amazingly hops over. It is three times her size!! We decide to get a 25 inch x-pen thinking, there is NO way she can get over this. But there is a way. She hooks her paws through the fencing, and climbs onto it and hops over.
Finally we try a 30 inch. She gets over.
Can someone help me? If you seriously don't believe me I am willing to take a video.

She doesn't want toys, she wants you to play with the toys...with her. How old is this dog?

Tollers are ALOT of work, they need lots of stimulation, either physical or mental. Are you training or exercising everyday? I bet a dog like that would retrieve for two hours straight or catch on to som' really elaborate tricks!



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[Mickey]

Yup... extremely energetic dog. Very smart to. I am not suprised your dog figured out how to get over the pen. How old is your toller? Mine is 16 weeks old and FULL of energy. I really dont have any tips to help with your problem. I have not seen a toller once since I got mine. Would love to see a video. NY dog doesnt seem to have any fear. He has tried several times to jump up onto my cats post falling off each time. Just keeps at it. I have to pay lots of attention to him and try to keep him ocupied otherwise he gets into things he is not suposed to.

Tim

 

[Sheltiemama]

Years ago, I had a miniature poodle that climbed our 4' chain link fence. Never could break him of it.

 

[fawkese1]

my cocker spaniel could climb almost anything. she could climb all heights of chain link, and even jungle gyms. seriously, i got her when i was 11, and i would take her to the playground with me, if i climbed the jungle gym, she was right there behind me! never would have thought that such a small stocky dog could be so agile! fortunately, she only did it to get to me, not away....sounds like your dog needs a ton more exercise...you said you have an x pen to potty train her, but you intend her to potty inside the pen when put outside? this is confusing to me. the x pen/ crate inside is used to keep her from wondering around and going where she likes, helps you to schedule potty breaks etc....dogs don't like to go where the eat/drink/sleep... if you are with her, it is much more effective to be there when she goes so you can tell her exactly how clever and wonderful she is.



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[pawzaddict]

My duck toller, Luna has been jumping over fences. not really jumping but climbing. I don't know why she does this. I think it may be separation anxiety. So here goes the detail: We thought of a easier way to house train Luna; by buying a X-pen and placing her in it. The x-pens are really expensive. Around 70 dollars for 18 inches. Anyways, as usual she whines for a long time when we leave her in her crate. She seems comfortable outside so we place her x-pen outside so she can go in that, run around and go to the bathroom in it and be more comforatble. Apparently not. my kitchen window is above the outdoor x-pen. I leave Luna in the xpen with water, toys, chew toys, and a small towel then I head upstairs to watch her from the kitchen window. She cries, and throws herself at the xpen, puts her paws on the top, and amazingly hops over. It is three times her size!! We decide to get a 25 inch x-pen thinking, there is NO way she can get over this. But there is a way. She hooks her paws through the fencing, and climbs onto it and hops over.
Finally we try a 30 inch. She gets over.
Can someone help me? If you seriously don't believe me I am willing to take a video.

Crates need to be slowly introduced to a dog. Sounds like this is going to be the option for your dog since they cannot climb out of it. Slowly get the dog comfortable in it, feed her inside of it, when she is napping place her in it and slowly take a couple steps back. It will take time.

my cocker spaniel could climb almost anything. she could climb all heights of chain link, and even jungle gyms. seriously, i got her when i was 11, and i would take her to the playground with me, if i climbed the jungle gym, she was right there behind me! never would have thought that such a small stocky dog could be so agile! fortunately, she only did it to get to me, not away....sounds like your dog needs a ton more exercise...you said you have an x pen to potty train her, but you intend her to potty inside the pen when put outside? this is confusing to me. the x pen/ crate inside is used to keep her from wondering around and going where she likes, helps you to schedule potty breaks etc....dogs don't like to go where the eat/drink/sleep... if you are with her, it is much more effective to be there when she goes so you can tell her exactly how clever and wonderful she is.

I agree it sounds like if she is going to be outside she should be able to wander the yard. Penning her up outside confuses me too. Is your yard not fenced in? Potty training is done for dogs inside to keep them from going potty inside.

 

[Sooks]

She is 13 weeks. She gets 20 minutes of training, and 20 minutes of exercise 2 times a day.
I would play with her for 2 hours but nothing interests her! I have at least 20 toys and act all excited around them, giving her a chance to play with them. Nope, she doesn't care about ONE.
Though she likes to play by herself. She'll run around with the pull toy in her mouth.
I was foolish early this morning and tied her wit her leash to the x-pen. Dangerously, she flew herself at the xpen side, and then climbed over the pen with her leash on. She almost hung herself. I quickly ran down and unbuckled the leash.
Luckily she is save. I was thinking that I could get a roof made out of the same wire as the x-pen. She obviously can't get out of her crate because it has a roof.

 

[pawzaddict]

She is 13 weeks. She gets 20 minutes of training, and 20 minutes of exercise 2 times a day.
I would play with her for 2 hours but nothing interests her! I have at least 20 toys and act all excited around them, giving her a chance to play with them. Nope, she doesn't care about ONE.
Though she likes to play by herself. She'll run around with the pull toy in her mouth.
I was foolish early this morning and tied her wit her leash to the x-pen. Dangerously, she flew herself at the xpen side, and then climbed over the pen with her leash on. She almost hung herself. I quickly ran down and unbuckled the leash.
Luckily she is save. I was thinking that I could get a roof made out of the same wire as the x-pen. She obviously can't get out of her crate because it has a roof.

20 mins of playtime period? Then she is locked back up?

I guess I am still confused....is she in this pen all day outside? Can she not have free run of the yard instead of locking her up in one spot? Does she have a shady area in this pen?

Definitely do not keep her tied up even if you put something on the top of the x-pen.

Are you home all day with her? if not where is she when you are not home?

 

[Criosphynx]

This dog needs a minimum two hours interaction. If she doesn't like the toys, train more...or walk more (not alot shes young)

Don't tie her up to anything, my husbands childhood dog hung itself, and trust me, you don't want to live with that memory.



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[fawkese1]

She is 13 weeks. She gets 20 minutes of training, and 20 minutes of exercise 2 times a day.
I would play with her for 2 hours but nothing interests her! I have at least 20 toys and act all excited around them, giving her a chance to play with them. Nope, she doesn't care about ONE.
Though she likes to play by herself. She'll run around with the pull toy in her mouth.
I was foolish early this morning and tied her wit her leash to the x-pen. Dangerously, she flew herself at the xpen side, and then climbed over the pen with her leash on. She almost hung herself. I quickly ran down and unbuckled the leash.
Luckily she is save. I was thinking that I could get a roof made out of the same wire as the x-pen. She obviously can't get out of her crate because it has a roof.

that is about 80 min of interaction per day, what is happening during the other 1360 minutes of her day? i'm sure she is spending some time sleeping, she's just a baby, and eating, what else is going on for her?
as far as the toys, start with just one or two, i had to teach my dog to play with his toys. you can try a bit of peanut butter on her kongs and hide and seek games with her with them. i literally had to push toys into my dogs face (gently) over and over again to get him to play with them. i also got some of those treat dispensing puzzle balls and put his dry kibble in them.

please explain to us why it is necessary to keep your dog in the x pen. is the yard not fenced? are you not home with her? it sounds to me like she is getting a little traumatized by the pen, this is not good, you may need to confine her in an emergency, you need to train your dog to be okay in a crate, it just doesn't happen on its own.

if you really need to confine her outside, an x-pen is no where near secure enough, they make outdoor kennels for that, they are expensive, but worth your dog's safety and security.

ideally, if you are home with her, she doesn't need to be confined. if you are home with her, i envy you, i wish i could stya home and play with my dog every day



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