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:'(

There's no malice, but his total inability to contain himself and the cleanup and smell is super punishing to me :( Likewise with the constant screaming, which makes it difficult to decipher if he's freaking out about Koda, the bunny, attention, or needing out.

He also pees ON HIMSELF so he needs a bath pretty much every accident...it's not warm enough for this many baths.

3 cheers to Koda for not peeing/pooping everywhere (typically, she had an accident once right after him) despite him using the entire place as a toilet, even when I get so fed up that I ask her to hold it longer than usual. It smells like waste and urine and vinegar (he's on plastic, didn't want him eating the enzyme cleaner plus that smells even worse...). I'm so fed up. :'( Help.
 

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Awe man, I'm sorry :-( wish I could help! hope it gets better!

My BC used to get bouts of explosive diarrhea every couple months. So bad, ugh so bad. In her bedroom. would lay down rugs and piddle pads for her, and then she'd use THE BED!! then the bed got Saran wrapped, lol... But still. Ugh.
 

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I'd use a belly band on him when he's loose. It won't housetrain him but will at least cut down on the sheer amount of cleaning you're having to do.

You bring back memories of Shadow, he was so hard to housetrain, 6 months in I finally had enough and started putting him outside all day while I was at work. It broke him of the habit of peeing inside but I do not recommend that method, so much could have went wrong and I know I got lucky.
 
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@readmeli - he was sick and had explosive diarrhea in his crate for a full week. He lost a ton of weight but because he really couldn't be out *at all* he started feeling okay doing his busniess in his crate....

There's training pads in there now, as 'blankets' for him to pee on. Since he peed on the blanket enough times that I gave up washing it/giving it back to him.

I'm trying to give him a schedule-he's better when I leave the house, like I used to for work. But now I'm home all the time almost and he needs out constantly. plus in an apartment...just ugh.
@Rain he's not loose very often yet, tbh. I feel bad for crating him so much but I've just been dealing with the screaming. There's at least 4-5 walks a day with both dogs/crazy construction/people/smells/overwhelmingness, so he has that and about an hour where we cuddle if he's being quiet in his crate (this is his jackpot) and I read a book. Koda's getting crated more now, too, so they don't bug each other too badly. Crate and rotate atr least has this benefit. BUT! I will try belly bands now that you mention it when we transition to him being out more. That's a great idea.

He is doing a TON better-she said he was having at least one pee & poop accident a day. i'm getting a few accidents a week-major progress, and it happened almost overnight + stress of moving twice + getting sick. He's started trying harder to not go in his crate since being sick-you can tell he's uncomfortable when it happens, plus he pees on himself so it means a bath + cleanup. On the upside, he's getting way better at baths and I don't even need the food reward to keep him calm anymore.

I think it's a matter of burnout :( He can't be out much because he attacks Sandy, he nips Koda when she's trying to be polite if they aren't on leash (if they're on leash they both walk into each other, Koda's jumped over him, they're stupidly comfortable together...even inside). He's only starting to get good at impulse control and not screaming for things he wants. He still will go RIGHT in your face to steal food. Maybe I can pawn him off on a doggy daycare for a bit-let them work on house training and socializing a bit. He's rude with dogs but listens when they tell him off once or twice, so it could work....

And he's 5. Years, not months. Lots of habit to break.

*sigh* Thanks guys, for just letting me rant. I honestly hope house training doesn't get harder than this for anybody else, either, though I know that's not true.
 

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Amen to that! Forbes wasn't as bad as Doppler is, but he brought me to tears more then once. Some tears from the smell, and some from frustration.

It's a great thing what you are doing for him. A lot of regular pet owners would have given up on him by now.
 
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I've almost given up a few times-mostly because there's multiple factors going into why he doesn't fit in this family at all. But he's fun to train and shape....like is able to be shaped SUPER fast to do new things, which is pretty cool.

There was no accident today when I got home after 9 hours of training class with Koda plus transport....if I'm not home, he's doing a great job in conjunction with being crated and on a schedule. If I'm home, it's a different story...2-3 hours, more like. I guess he's good motivation to leave the house.
 

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maybe he is learning what your teaching him and starting to get the hang of house training hopefully
 

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Ughhh another one in his crate - I didn't wake up in time. Allergies are acting up since it was sitting around while I slept. :'(
 
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