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I have a 2 year old mixed breed dog that I have had since he was 7 weeks old. In the first year or so of his life he was super friendly to other dogs. The dogs that he was ok with then, he is still ok with now. But within the last few months when we see another dog he loses his mind. It's not like he just pulls on the leash but he almost breaks it, pretty much foams from his mouth, and you can clearly tell that he WILL kill the other dog if given the chance. I have had two puppies in the house in this time and he's done fine with them, never got aggressive or anything. He can go to a dog park where there are 20-25 dogs and be happy as can be. However if he sees one or two dogs he seriously tries to kill them. He weighs over 70 pounds and is over 2 feet tall so its not like he's easy to handle in these situations. I just don't know what to do. It's a 50/50 chance of will he LOVE the dog and not want to leave it's side or will he try to break a collar and harness to attack them.
 

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I suggest you hire a professional and have him check on your dog until the issue is resolved. This kind of things are no to be taken lightly. This is not some small confrontational issue, your dog might get out of control, miss the dog he wants to bite and bite a person instead. You might have to put him down then.
 

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miss the dog he wants to bite and bite a person instead. You might have to put him down then.
With all due respect, I would never willingly and I would do everything in my power to never allow any "authority" to put my dog down over a misdirected hit/bite.

Question for Lanilessard: Does this aggressive behavior only occur while the dog is leashed?
 

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Whether he bites a human or dog, you could be innmassove legal trouble if he injured another being. If he kills a dog, Animal Control will deem him a dangerous dog and after that he has one strike before he is "out".

Someone else mentioned the risk of a misdirected bite and this is very real. Immediate destruction of the animal would be a fairly contentious issue but you could wind up fighting it in court (either before or after your dog is seized and put down).

You need a professional on board. A certified trainer (CPDT) and/or a vet. To advise you on agression ttis severe, even over the internet, even over the internet could put someone legally at risk.
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and stay away from other people and dogs. Period.

That might be a bit harsh and likely will never cure the problem described by the OP.

As most all know, a leashed/restrained/restricted etc. dog many times takes on a completely different "attitude" versus the same dog with no restraints and all the freedom to move about as it chooses. Many dogs which have no fight drive sure appear to have plenty of unbridled aggression in the situation described when leashed but as also described by Lanilessard the same dog coexists basically fine when not leashed. The first step would be to determine the source of the leash aggression and chances are it's not fight drive related. I suppose it could be but I doubt it in this case.
Lots of methods to deal with leash aggression and reactivity, some work and some don't work so well. My bottom line mostly boils down to upping the obedience especially while the dog is on a leash. A dog that is exhibiting proper obedience while on command can, at the very least, learn to ignore all other dogs while leashed.

Even though this video shows 2 dogs fence fighting, the same general idea is displayed. At times, dogs do look like they want to kill each other but much of it is just posturing due to vulnerabilities at the moment of a sort.

'Trash-Talking' Dogs Prove Their Bark Is Worse Than Their Bite | The Huffington Post
 

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With all due respect, I would never willingly and I would do everything in my power to never allow any "authority" to put my dog down over a misdirected hit/bite.
It might happen, though, and I would rather insist on avoiding and preventing bites than talking about what could hypothetically happen and what you would do about it.
 

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I feel like this could be a real possibility when it comes to Bubba. Because he's even been to a doggy daycare where a woman keeps up to 8 dogs in her house over the weekend and he has NEVER had an incident there. He runs and plays with dogs of every size and it also doesn't seem to matter if they are male, female, intact, or fixed. I just don't know what could have caused such a shift in his behavior. But now that people bring it up, he hasn't acted like that with a dog if he wasn't leashed, I just never made that connection.
 

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I would try a muzzle to prevent accidents and clicker training or distraction of the dog as soon as he gets into his unwanted behaviour. Some dogs just bark and growl out of frustration because they can not reach their desired goal while they are on the leash. In this case you could try to show the dog alternative behaviour to reach his goal (like sitting down and then he is allowed to say hello to the other dog for example). It could also be insecurity. If that is the case, you can 'feed other dogs nice'.
But well it could also be his hormones. If he is intact, it could very well be that he sees other males as competition. In that case I would castrate him.
 

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More than likely won't make any difference.
Yes, probably this is not necessairy because I think it is leash aggression but I can only guess. I think it depends on the reasons of the dogs behaviour. Some intact males have a huge problem with other intact males and fixing them often solves the problem.
 

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I feel like this could be a real possibility when it comes to Bubba. Because he's even been to a doggy daycare where a woman keeps up to 8 dogs in her house over the weekend and he has NEVER had an incident there. He runs and plays with dogs of every size and it also doesn't seem to matter if they are male, female, intact, or fixed. I just don't know what could have caused such a shift in his behavior. But now that people bring it up, he hasn't acted like that with a dog if he wasn't leashed, I just never made that connection.
Your dog is becoming fully mature if not already and this stage can bring out behaviors you have not experienced previously. Could be frustration as well but it seems a bit overzealous in certain ways you described the behavior when Bubba goes ballistic while on leash.

Question for you: When you go to the dog park, do you have the dog on leash exiting the vehicle and up to the point where you enter the park and then unleash Bubba or just let him exit the vehicle unleashed? If so, what is Bubba's behavior, either way?

The fact you have a dog park close to you is great because you can utilize the dog park as a wonderful training area. However, the training should take place outside the dog park with your dog leashed. Generally, the dogs inside the fenced park will not be posturing like the other dogs you encounter out walking because they are all leashed. I have no idea how much obedience training you have accomplished with Bubba but if you don't have reasonable obedience skills such as a heel, stay, wait, extended down etc., this would be a good place to start. I would begin this basic training in an area free of all distractions and then begin to proof the obedience skills in areas with more distractions and then take it to the outside of the dog park.

A couple of suggestions, the process needs to be gradual and you need to read your dog's posturing and body gestures once you bring the training into the environment where other leashed dogs are present. You may have to start off 100 yards away from other dogs. The key is that you need to keep the dog well below the level you have described when Bubba loses it. Even the leash tightening a bit, due to the dog forging once the undesirable process starts is past an acceptable point. Once he loses it, you have gone backward in the process because the dog has broken the obedience and self rewarded himself by indulging in his reactivity. Keep working the dog as you close the distance to other dogs and when Bubba is doing as you require, praise and reward is essential. Also, it doesn't have to be all hardcore obedience during these sessions, one can certainly play with the dog or any interaction which keeps the dog focused on you instead of the other dogs. And my last suggestion, you need to do a self inventory of your frame of mind when you see other leashed dogs approaching. If you start to get uptight, you are just adding to the problem. This is may be the hardest part for many people with leash reactive dogs as their dire anticipation just makes matters worse.
 

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When we go to the park he is leashed until we get to the gate. The dog park is in our neighborhood so we go almost every day. I always pray its either completely empty or packed. If there's only one or two dogs he will be aggressive when we are 20 yards away so I turn around and go back home. Oh and just to add, he was neutered when he was 6 weeks old.
 

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I always pray its either completely empty or packed. If there's only one or two dogs he will be aggressive when we are 20 yards away so I turn around and go back home.

I find this difference in behavior based on the number of dogs present at the dog park fascinating. I could only make guesses as to why it would make such a marked difference regarding the dog's behavior. Maybe something along the lines of security/comfort/strength in numbers??? I sure don't know. Hopefully, some of the forum members who are educated in this particular sector of dog behavior would be willing to share their thoughts.
 

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Maybe he does not feel the urgent need to reach a particular dog if there are many of them?
Would be my best guess. Or the pure amount is overwhelming and he decides to watch first. So he does not want to communicate immediatly and that is why he does not start to bark out of frustration?
 

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When we go to the park he is leashed until we get to the gate. The dog park is in our neighborhood so we go almost every day. I always pray its either completely empty or packed. If there's only one or two dogs he will be aggressive when we are 20 yards away so I turn around and go back home. Oh and just to add, he was neutered when he was 6 weeks old.
Take a friend with you and get some video. Some people assume their dog is aggressive when they really aren't.

What you're discussing about on leash behaviour is likely barrier frustration, it's the same with fence fighting dogs. Dogs that run freely at the parks can be different on leash as they are used to meeting dogs on their own terms. If you watch your dog greeting another, chances are good they circle to sniff - on leash (the barrier) it all head on.
 

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I find this difference in behavior based on the number of dogs present at the dog park fascinating. I could only make guesses as to why it would make such a marked difference regarding the dog's behavior. Maybe something along the lines of security/comfort/strength in numbers??? I sure don't know. Hopefully, some of the forum members who are educated in this particular sector of dog behavior would be willing to share their thoughts.
This is what is interesting me the most in this behavior, as well.

My thought, and this is a wild stab in the dark, given that I've not seen the behavior and am working on limited description. My thought is that with more dogs, maybe he's overwhelmed enough that he won't react aggressively, and perhaps the emotional discomfort he is experiencing is presenting as "silliness"/"excitement" instead, since he feels aggression is not a valid behavioral option in a large group of dogs but is still very stressed.

Alternatively, it could be that he feels that large numbers of dogs is safer than smaller numbers- has he ever had any uncomfortable situations with smaller numbers of dogs, perhaps?

It is also possible that he is just exhibiting extreme barrier frustration on the leash, but I would expect that to translate to fences were that the case (given the described severity on the leash) and wouldn't expect there to be a difference between more or less dogs in the dog park.

A few questions about the dog: what is he like- fearful/insecure, confident, friendly to people? What is his play style like with other dogs? At the park, how does he act- wrestling, chasing, just chilling out?

I have a few thoughts:
1) While I agree that owners quite often misconstrue things like frustration related aggression, a dog can still have barrier frustration and want to hurt the other dog. I hesitate to underplay the severity of any kind of aggressive behavior over the internet, personally. My biggest advice: find a professional able to help in person, locally. This forum is a wonderful place for information, but in cases of aggression people over the internet can only help so much, and there is a wide gap in reading/learning the information and actually successfully applying it. There is always a learning curve, and with a dangerously aggressive dog (which it sounds like you think your dog is, ignoring the possibility that the behavior is being misinterpreted), it isn't the time for a learning curve. Do use caution in choosing a trainer to work with- there are a lot of bad trainers out there. I'd suggest looking for some kind of credentials- having been CPDT-KA or KPA-KA assessed is a good start. If you can find someone from the IABC (International Association of Behavior Consultants) near you, then that would be great, IMO.

2) Be VERY sure that you have a secure hold on this dog on walks. Personally, my preference for dogs who I consider risky (usually meaning they have some form of aggression and/or reactivity to certain things in the world) is a front clip harness (my new preferred brand is a Sensation harness) with a flat collar, with the leash attached to the harness and the collar and harness attached by a caribeaner. I worry about dogs slipping out of collars or harnesses alone, personally, and I actually feel I have more of a hold on a dog in a front clip harness than a collar, though that is totally preference. A lot of people like head collars, but it is imperative to learn how to use them from someone who has experience with the, and they take a long time to get a dog used to most of the time. Make sure the equipment is in good shape.

2.5) A muzzle isn't a bad idea if you are truly worried this dog would seriously injure another dog if given the chance. As others said, there is a real worry of liability with an aggressive dog, should it ever bite, and a muzzle can cover your bases and take away that worry somewhat. Also, other dog owners will be more likely to stay away from a muzzled dog they see from afar.

3) I would advise avoiding other dogs as much as possible when on leash until a very clear training plan is in place (which I'll talk about below a little). When I'm working with a dog who is iffy with certain things (meaning it has any kind of strong emotional reaction to something- this is usually to other dogs, leading to things like over excitement, anxiety, fear, leading to lunging, barking, and general crazy behavior) I always teach a direction changing cue for emergency U turns. I use the phrase "this way". When working with a reactive/aggressive dog, you want to avoid the dog rehearsing the behavior as much as possible while encouraging the response you do want as much as possible. I use an emergency U-turn for things like:
- Other dog is too close and I know the dog I have will react
- I know the other dog is aggressive/reactive itself and thus that the dog I have is likely to react (it is important to note that a dog may be at a point where is can ignore or mostly ignore uninterested/neutral dogs but still freaks out at dogs that are interested in it or especially those that are aggressive themselves).
- I doubt the ability of the other handler (owner) to control their dog, or know they tend to be the type to not understand I don't want them to bring their dog over to the one I have
- I'm not set up for a training session or not up for one (meaning I either don't have any treats or toy rewards on me- usually because we were just running out for a bathroom break- or I don't have time to stop and work on the issue then and there)

You want to teach the cue away from other dogs and use it occasionally when there are no other dogs to avoid that phrase meaning "there's another dog near bye and you should be on alert". Also, try your best to calm yourself and avoid the cue meaning that for YOU. This is where a muzzle and safe equipment will help, because you'll be less anxious knowing the dog can't get to the other dog (I speak from experience).

4) For the training part of it: the goal of (good) behavioral modification (which is what this would be) is to change the underlying emotional reaction to the stimulus (in this case other dogs) and to teach an alternative, more desirable behavior to replace the ones you don't like (ie, the aggressive ones). Some people train a sit/stay with the dog watching them, some people play a game where they'll toss food for the dog to find while moving, some people ask for tricks while they move past other dogs, some train a close heel with attention. It's really all about what behavior works best for you and for the dog. My personal favorite (the one I think works best for people with pet dogs) is the "find it" game- you say "find it" and toss a treat and the dog goes and runs after it. This takes the focus off the other dog and keeps their mind occupied with something else. It will also make them more attentive to you. I usually like to change this into something else (dog doing tricks or a sit/stay) eventually, but I think it is a good start and a good first goal to be able to play this game without the dog getting distracted prior to trying to add more complex behaviors. You would have to practice this where there are no dogs until the dog is really engaged in the game, and then try it with dogs far away, moving slowly closer until the dog doesn't care about the other dogs.

Again- the best thing you can do is to get a professional to help in person, though. The above is a very brief description of a possible course of action that sounds easy, but is not going to be as easy to use as it sounds. It will take time, there will be good and bad days, but there is hope that eventually it will be manageable with long term training.
 

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Moonstream - I think all your advice above is excellent. That said, I find it odd that no one has asked the OP if he/she knows what is included in the dog's mix, if known. Do the active members of this board not believe that certain breeds are more genetically inclined towards dog aggression and it needs to be factored into the analysis?

I am particularly sensitive to this issue as I have 4 dogs, 2 are pits and one of the pits is extremely dog aggressiive. No barrier frustration or anything else environmental - she is hard wired and hates most other dogs. She is OK with my males when supervised but I keep my 2 females separated at all times. Have worked with several respected pit bull aware positive dog trainers and all agree she is just hard wired hot and I need to treat her accordingly. She loves all people and unless you saw her with another dog you would think of her as a doscile 40 pound lap dog!

I am also a litigator who has litigated two pit bull bite cases during which I worked with several experts in dog genetics who testified that American Pit Bull Terriers are genetically inclined towards dog aggression. Obviously that does not necessarily hold true to all the pit bull mixes which may or may not be so disposed depending on the genetic lottery.

Thanks!
 
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