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Hi guys

I'm living over in london uk, and have got a 4 month old jack russell male called rex!!

my first dog was a cross between jack russell and beagle, and he was an amazing dog!!!!! so clever

unfortunately, he developed cancer at the age of 12, and we decided to put him down shortly after, (he was fed commercial dog food, and cooked human leftovers)

10 years on, and rex is upon us

i have started to feed rex, on raw food, from a complete raw food company, and i have a puppy formula!! it came frozen, and i needed to defrost, and serve

at the start, it was hard to get him to eat raw food (designed for puppy) so i started sprinkling parmesan cheese over the raw meal, and now he loves it

my question is, is the parmesan ok to mix with raw meat for my dog???

thanks
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@annageckos - Sigh. Where do people find all these amazing vets?!
@annageckos - Sigh. Where do people find all these amazing vets?!
I think I got lucky. I now have two vets, one traditional who I've been taking my animals to since I was a child. They neutered my pet rat when I was 11. I trust them and they are great. But I have to be careful what I say or I get the lecture or disapproving looks. A few years ago I wanted to try again to find a closer vet that I trusted, it's a 45 minute drive one way. I looked up holistic vets and found my current vets. There are a couple vets there and they are all a little different. My favorite vet is mostly into chinese medicine. But she will also use homeopathic and traditional if needed. Some of the things she says I don't really know if I believe, but what she does and what she gives me works. Some of the other vets are a little less holistic there but they are all nice. I lucked out finding them so quickly, but I was ready to go vet shopping til I found one I liked and trusted.
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thanks for all the replies guys, well, i tried to stop the parmesan and he did not eat his food,

here is a link of the food I'm buying over here in the UK, frozen thaw and serve

what are your thoughts on this?
Raw Puppy Food - Chicken & Beef Liver | Natural Instinct Raw Dog Food
Whatever food you decide on, stick with it and continue to offer without parm. He will eat it eventually.
Whatever food you decide on, stick with it and continue to offer without parm. He will eat it eventually.

thanks mate, the problem is, he is a growing 4 month puppy, so i can't wait around for him to eat it, as he needs his meals at this age

is there any other tips, other than parmazan that i can use, thats effective, and safe to use on a regular basis???
thanks mate, the problem is, he is a growing 4 month puppy, so i can't wait around for him to eat it, as he needs his meals at this age

is there any other tips, other than parmazan that i can use, thats effective, and safe to use on a regular basis???
Honestly, he'll be fine if you keep taking his food away for half an hour or so before offering it again until he eats it, he won't starve. He needs to learn to eat raw if you want to feed it. If you're fine with adding toppers to every meal, feel free to, but if you ever want him to eat his food without goodies on it you're going to have to start as early as possible unless you want to end up with a picky dog. Cheese is fine, it's not dangerous to sprinkle a bit of cheese on your dog's food, but you could also add a bit of wet food, boiled boneless shredded chicken, commercial toppers you can get at pet stores.
You can also start to decrease the amount of cheese you are adding. Try feeding it frozen, some dogs like it frozen or partly frozen. Or maybe try plain meat. I honestly would stay away from premade mixes, but I know others like them. I don't like the fillers and extras. Meat, bone and organ is all you need.
thanks mate, the problem is, he is a growing 4 month puppy, so i can't wait around for him to eat it, as he needs his meals at this age

is there any other tips, other than parmazan that i can use, thats effective, and safe to use on a regular basis???
You don't have to wait around. Put the food down for about ten or fifteen minutes. Long enough to eat. If its not eaten, take it up and offer it at the next meal. I healthy dog will always eat at some point. They won't starve themselves. Hr is being picky, and you make it worse by " begging" and " sugar coating" it, as well as he is training you rather than the other way around.
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I really don't like the idea of adding things to get a dog to eat, like naturalfeddogs said, it makes for picky dogs. Trust me, I have first hand experience with it. But if you feel you have to you could try mixing in some fish or salmon oil. But NOT cod liver oil. Cod liver oil is high in vitamin A, which you can OD on if given too much. The fish oil has omega three fatty acids.
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I really don't like the idea of adding things to get a dog to eat, like naturalfeddogs said, it makes for picky dogs. Trust me, I have first hand experience with it. But if you feel you have to you could try mixing in some fish or salmon oil. But NOT cod liver oil. Cod liver oil is high in vitamin A, which you can OD on if given too much. The fish oil has omega three fatty acids.
Or krill oil too, but its more expensive.
Very interesting to read all of your comments. My two dogs have always eaten a complete dry dog food, but we have recently started complimenting their diet with raw meat, not manufactured raw dog food, but actual chicken with bones etc..and we chop it up for them and they absolutely love it, it is their favourite thing, I guess this is closer to nature as in the wild they would be eating raw meat and bones, please note, raw chicken bones are ok to feed dogs but cooked bones are NOT as they become brittle and can splinter. My older dog has arthritis and since feeding him raw food he seems to be in less discomfort so that is a bonus! We made a video of what we do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRaIBjD-MM

We are by no means experts but we have done a lot of research and we are very happy with the results of this dietary change...but our dogs are even happier!
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No need to cut up bones. They are best when given whole for amazing dental cleaning benefits. Cut bones also tend to create unusual jagged edges of bone, vs. the crunching done by the dog chewing.
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please note, raw chicken bones are ok to feed dogs but cooked bones are NOT as they become brittle and can splinter.
You're mostly correct. Raw bones fine to feed, they are soft, but any cooked or dry bones can splinter.

Chicken feet are a great source of glucosamine and chondroitin. Leg quarters too and any other joints. Grains are also an inflammatory, so switching to raw eliminates those.

I don't know how big your dogs are, but even small dogs can handle a whole leg or thigh. My mom gives her scotties smaller leg quarters and they chomp them down without issue. Also larger pieces are safer to feed, the dog has to chew as opposed to just trying to swallow a chunk down. Just something to think about.
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No need to cut up bones. They are best when given whole for amazing dental cleaning benefits. Cut bones also tend to create unusual jagged edges of bone, vs. the crunching done by the dog chewing.
I wouldn't usually but in our case we have a tiny 14 year old Chihuahua who isn't strong enough to get through them on his own, he tries then gives up so we have no option, but yes much better to give them whole if possible.
You're mostly correct. Raw bones fine to feed, they are soft, but any cooked or dry bones can splinter.

Chicken feet are a great source of glucosamine and chondroitin. Leg quarters too and any other joints. Grains are also an inflammatory, so switching to raw eliminates those.

I don't know how big your dogs are, but even small dogs can handle a whole leg or thigh. My mom gives her scotties smaller leg quarters and they chomp them down without issue. Also larger pieces are safer to feed, the dog has to chew as opposed to just trying to swallow a chunk down. Just something to think about.
Thanks for the info, yes I should have clarified that that was the case with any bones and not just chicken bones. My dogs are tiny, the older one is a Chihuahua, he is 14 and not strong enough to chomp through most bones so we give him a bit of help, then we have a 10 year old Yorkie-Russell and she happily still gets through whole bones on her own :)
I wouldn't usually but in our case we have a tiny 14 year old Chihuahua who isn't strong enough to get through them on his own, he tries then gives up so we have no option, but yes much better to give them whole if possible.
You can try cornish hens. Also, with any bones like chicken or turkey you can use a hammer or kitchen mallet to smash them almost to bean bag consistancy. that way he will get bone and still be able to chew them. I have a friend who had a very old chi mix, who was missing a good many teeth. This was the only way she could feed her "whole" bone, and it was good for the teeth that were left as well.
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There was a woman on a raw feeding group I was part of many years ago. She had an old, toothless cat who could strip all the meat off a turkey or chicken leg and could still crunch up smaller bones. You'd be surprised what they can do. But it does take time to build up the strength to do it.
I am new to this forum, but the raw feeding is right up my alley :)
I have fed raw diet for 18 years to all my dogs and even when I raised Welsh Corgi's I weaned the pups on it.
Without going into a long post (which I could, LOL) I would suggest for the tiny dogs and older dogs missing teeth is to feed chicken necks, the bones are very small and easily consumed. The bone to meat ratio in a chicken neck is very good also.
As to the UK gal with the JRT what about trying some chicken broth or beef broth. Not the store bought that has a ton of sodium but from boiling some beef or even liver or chicken and letting the raw food soak in that? An off the wall thought would be an egg broken over it?
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