[pierucki.robert]

A difficult situation in which you are helpless?

By the way, can I just say that the dog in your photo looks very unhappy at being hugged by the child.

Yeah looks a bit exhausted. My son can make her tired but occasionally her mood is down. This is today picture. Any better.

 

[JoanneF]

tell me please what is fertile period from the start of the bleeding in golden retriever it course if you could.

I've never owned a female, but from Google - first result -

After about 9-10 days, the bleeding will become more watery, or stop. It is at this time your female will, most likely, be at her most fertile. This proestrus stage can last as long as 20 days in some dogs. So the end of bleeding can be a more useful indicator of peak fertility.

My wife informed me from "internet knowledge" It's two weeks.

Your wife either misunderstood or misinformed you.

try to imagine woman in her thirties which soon will be struggling to choose to pay mortgage bill or maybe pay for new born food

Do you mean your wife? I'm afraid using sentient animals purely for profit is not thought of as ethical.

I'm glad your dog looks more relaxed in the second photo but my caution remains valid. She does not look comfortable in that earlier photo. Please don't let the child hug her like that, one day she might tell him she doesn't like it. You really don't want that to happen. You know all the stories about a dog biting or snapping ”with no warning”? She is giving you a warning, please listen.

 

[LMMB]

If you like to know I think spayed should be sexual criminals not dogs for your or other owners comfort.

Spaying? A sexual crime against dogs? Sorry, but that's hilarious.

Bestiality is a sexual crime against dogs, not a surgical procedure that can help save a dog's life.

But I think your attitude to your dog shines through in your later posts. Starting with the grin. I think you knew that your dog would be at her fertile stage just when you left her. I think if you really didn't want to risk breeding her, you would have boarded her with someone who didn't have dogs, under the strict instructions of not walking her in peak walking times, and under strict garden supervision. And in the event that she was still mated, you would have been on here a lot sooner, in a panic, looking for the advice you needed to end the pregnancy.

What you would not be doing, is offering a stud fee and grinning about the fact that a bitch can be pregnant by two sires at the same time. I think you saw pound signs when you realised she was pregnant. Given your "internet knowledge" you may have known about the mismate jab already, and waited just long enough before taking her to the vet so that the mismate was no longer an option, guaranteeing you puppies.

I think your main priority is your house, not the bitch's welfare. And therefore, the financial damage caused to the house by the puppies. The fact that you got lucky and she sailed through the pregnancy and birth without major complications hasn't even entered your head.

What I don't think, is that this will be your bitch's last litter, sadly.

Prove me wrong.

 

[pierucki.robert]

I've never owned a female, but from Google - first result -

After about 9-10 days, the bleeding will become more watery, or stop. It is at this time your female will, most likely, be at her most fertile. This proestrus stage can last as long as 20 days in some dogs. So the end of bleeding can be a more useful indicator of peak fertility.


Your wife either misunderstood or misinformed you.



Do you mean your wife? I'm afraid using sentient animals purely for profit is not thought of as ethical.

I'm glad your dog looks more relaxed in the second photo but my caution remains valid. She does not look comfortable in that earlier photo. Please don't let the child hug her like that, one day she might tell him she doesn't like it. You really don't want that to happen. You know all the stories about a dog biting or snapping ”with no warning”? She is giving you a warning, please listen.

Lili would not harm the fly. The puppies put her off her bowl and she didn't react. I had to show her she need to take care about her bowl, because two puppies were taking advantage of her. I could be wrong but she would never harm anybody in home and you can trust me my son doesn't harm her they just playing and Lili on many occasions provoke the situation. But thanks for concerns. Worries about others seems not to popular. Oh and the grin😃.

Spaying? A sexual crime against dogs? Sorry, but that's hilarious.

Bestiality is a sexual crime against dogs, not a surgical procedure that can help save a dog's life.

But I think your attitude to your dog shines through in your later posts. Starting with the grin. I think you knew that your dog would be at her fertile stage just when you left her. I think if you really didn't want to risk breeding her, you would have boarded her with someone who didn't have dogs, under the strict instructions of not walking her in peak walking times, and under strict garden supervision. And in the event that she was still mated, you would have been on here a lot sooner, in a panic, looking for the advice you needed to end the pregnancy.

What you would not be doing, is offering a stud fee and grinning about the fact that a bitch can be pregnant by two sires at the same time. I think you saw pound signs when you realised she was pregnant. Given your "internet knowledge" you may have known about the mismate jab already, and waited just long enough before taking her to the vet so that the mismate was no longer an option, guaranteeing you puppies.

I think your main priority is your house, not the bitch's welfare. And therefore, the financial damage caused to the house by the puppies. The fact that you got lucky and she sailed through the pregnancy and birth without major complications hasn't even entered your head.

What I don't think, is that this will be your bitch's last litter, sadly.

Prove me wrong.

😀 Grin for a start.
It's looks like there is some struggling to understand me. Spaying it's not criminal offence it's by a law approved surgery. I know that. So to make it clear Spaying it's just results of people vanity in my opinion. You said it's protect bitch life, really. Would you propose it to yourself to prolong your life. It's like a extraction of all teeth to protect somebody from teeth decay?? And the grin😀.
I will try to go through the sentence you refer to.

If you like to know I think spayed should be sexual criminals not dogs for your or other owners comfort.

To explain somehow society doesn't consider convicted rapists or paedophiles should be spayed when their activity harm other people but somehow the same society allow to do it to dogs as an act of mercy. So misunderstood which happened to you in this quite simple sentence it's really hilarious.
At least in our countries bestiality is a crime but for example in Denmark you can do it if you don't harm animal too much. Just please don't try to make any conclusion about this example.

The only thing it's shine with uncountable number of lumens it's lack of understanding of other people and the source of the light is not in me. I went abroad with my pregnant wife and little child the only option was a flight but you advice me to take a dog with me. Oh and I tried to find Lili different place to stay but I was refused help for a reasons by a people who done it before. It was a last resort to provide my wife opportunity to see family before she gave a birth and Covid attacked.
By the way Lili have been on holiday with me and my wife few times. U will make a thread about that.

Briefly have you consider why my dog sail through pregnancy so good. It's worth to ask.

But if you started to play in psychology. I will confirm you Lili will not have any more litter and my wife will not make me to have a dog after Lili. I love this creature and she will have nice life to the end. Even if this statement will be funny for somebody it will just prove somebody's sense of humour could have some development and only base on gaffes from Benny Hill's Show

But I liked this discussion so I don't mind to continue and I will try to find some time in the future to be active.

 

[LMMB]

Lili would not harm the fly. The puppies put her off her bowl and she didn't react. I had to show her she need to take care about her bowl, because two puppies were taking advantage of her. I could be wrong but she would never harm anybody in home and you can trust me my son doesn't harm her they just playing and Lili on many occasions provoke the situation. But thanks for concerns. Worries about others seems not to popular.

Most dogs would do anything to avoid harming a human. They give off subtle signals that they are not happy with the situation. Your dog was giving off those subtle signals in your first pic.

If/when these are missed, or in the dog's view, ignored, then the dogs ups the ante. The signals become clearer. The hackles rise, the dog's body becomes rigid, they start to curl their lips, showing their teeth. They growl, snarl, snap and finally bite.

If you cannot see the earlier signs and intervene, Lili will escalate the behaviour until she bites.

Spaying it's just results of people vanity in my opinion. You said it's protect bitch life, really.

I've already explained that spaying reduces the risk of mammary tumours, which can be cancerous, and pyometra, a potentially fatal womb condition. Not to mention false pregnancies.

That's not "sexual assault", or "genital mutilation" (which is what I think you meant) and it's certainly not for mine or anyone else's "vanity". It's in the best interests of the bitch. Did I read that your vet has even advised you get her spayed, and you're ignoring that advice?

Says a lot.

. Would you propose it to yourself to prolong your life.

A human woman's period and a bitch's season are very different things. For starters, women aren't spayed - they have hysterectomies. But yes, actually, if keeping my womb meant risking my life, I'd have the surgery.

It's like a extraction of all teeth to protect somebody from teeth decay??

Tooth decay is entirely preventable by frequent brushing of teeth. Pyometra and mammary tumours in dogs are entirely preventable - and only preventable - by spaying.

If you like to know I think spayed should be sexual criminals not dogs for your or other owners comfort.

To explain somehow society doesn't consider convicted rapists or paedophiles should be spayed

Once again, there is a difference between sexual assault, and therefore, sex offenders, and surgery intended to prevent deadly diseases in dogs.