Howdy from Reno, NV USA and welcome to the forum. 🤠
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My name is Robert and I would like to introduce myself and my dog Lili.
I sign up to the forum as I'm in Kafka's style situation and I hope I will be able to get some advice.
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My name is Robert and I would like to introduce myself and my dog Lili.
I sign up to the forum as I'm in Kafka's style situation and I hope I will be able to get some advice.
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No need to copy and paste anything. I posted that before you explained. I can always go back to the first unread [by me] and catch up.
It's amazing how often situations like yours happen. You leave your intact dog with the owner of another (male) intact dog, and lo and behold, when you come back, you find an unwanted pregnancy on your hands.
What made you think she was out of season? If it's because she stopped bleeding, that's an indication of the second, fertile stage of the heat.
You are the owner of the bitch, therefore you're the owner of the puppies. You offered a stud fee, she refused. If you have that in writing, you should, in theory, laugh her out of court.
Too late for the OP, but for the benefit of anyone else who finds themselves cornered in this situation who might be reading, an unwanted mating doesn't have to result in an unwanted litter. You can always take your dog to the vet for the mismate jab which will terminate any pregnancy. And if your vet won't administer it (because they're not breeding experts), find one that will. It can be given up til about 5 or 6 weeks, I believe, but the sooner the better.
That's true I wonder many times what I didn't think about to put myself in this kind of situation.No need to copy and paste anything. I posted that before you explained. I can always go back to the first unread [by me] and catch up.
It's amazing how often situations like yours happen. You leave your intact dog with the owner of another (male) intact dog, and lo and behold, when you come back, you find an unwanted pregnancy on your hands.
What made you think she was out of season? If it's because she stopped bleeding, that's an indication of the second, fertile stage of the heat.
You are the owner of the bitch, therefore you're the owner of the puppies. You offered a stud fee, she refused. If you have that in writing, you should, in theory, laugh her out of court.
Too late for the OP, but for the benefit of anyone else who finds themselves cornered in this situation who might be reading, an unwanted mating doesn't have to result in an unwanted litter. You can always take your dog to the vet for the mismate jab which will terminate any pregnancy. And if your vet won't administer it (because they're not breeding experts), find one that will. It can be given up til about 5 or 6 weeks, I believe, but the sooner the better.
My wife monitored Lilk she was pretty sure as bleeding stop almost week ago and discharge she had stop as well, but we had a knowledge from internet. Real life gives real lessons.
I didn't believe the pregnancy will happen so we ignored situation for a while. When we had a scan for Lili the operator explain it needed to be last day of season as there were only 3 puppies discovered.
For an abortion was to late when we had a scan.
The drama of the situation is we spend hundreds pounds to keep the house clean hours a day of hard work to give attention to puppies they were Golden Retriever border Collie mix they are real devils. We had damages to our property what I explained to let's call it other party bit or mean nothing for her.
Thanks for reply. Is it worth to make another thread to get further advice?
But, you said you you had “internet knowledge”, so presumably, you looked it up, and would see that once discharge and bleeding had stopped, the bitch was fertile. And if you had looked it up before you went away, why didn’t you join this forum (or petforums.co.uk) sooner?
Why would you grin (
) at the fact bitches can be impregnated by two different males?I’m just trying to understand why you didn’t act sooner. Your friend told you your bitch had been mated. You say you had internet knowledge of seasons, but the wealth of knowledge on the internet would have told you that once the discharge and bleeding had stopped, the bitch was entering her fertile stage and that they will only allow males to mount and tie with them once they’re receptive, so why didn’t you come here or the other forum sooner to ask for advice? We could have advised you about the mismate jab, which would have avoided all the problems you have now - the damage caused to the house by the puppies, the threats of the small claims courts, the attempted puppy theft.
Please now get you bitch spayed. It’s in her best interests. Every season you allow her to have puts her at risk of pyometra, a potentially fatal uterus infection, and the longer she remains intact, the bigger the risk of potentially cancerous mammary tumours.
And for the benefit of any other owner of an intact bitch out there; as well as the above advice about getting her spayed, let this thread be a lesson: if you’re about to go away on holiday when your bitch comes into season, either take her with you if possible, or stay at home with her.
I thought I was quite clear but it looks like I need to practise that ability as well😀.But, you said you you had “internet knowledge”, so presumably, you looked it up, and would see that once discharge and bleeding had stopped, the bitch was fertile. And if you had looked it up before you went away, why didn’t you join this forum (or petforums.co.uk) sooner?
Why would you grin (
I’m just trying to understand why you didn’t act sooner. Your friend told you your bitch had been mated. You say you had internet knowledge of seasons, but the wealth of knowledge on the internet would have told you that once the discharge and bleeding had stopped, the bitch was entering her fertile stage and that they will only allow males to mount and tie with them once they’re receptive, so why didn’t you come here or the other forum sooner to ask for advice? We could have advised you about the mismate jab, which would have avoided all the problems you have now - the damage caused to the house by the puppies, the threats of the small claims courts, the attempted puppy theft.
Please now get you bitch spayed. It’s in her best interests. Every season you allow her to have puts her at risk of pyometra, a potentially fatal uterus infection, and the longer she remains intact, the bigger the risk of potentially cancerous mammary tumours.
And for the benefit of any other owner of an intact bitch out there; as well as the above advice about getting her spayed, let this thread be a lesson: if you’re about to go away on holiday when your bitch comes into season, either take her with you if possible, or stay at home with her.
So tell me please what is fertile period from the start of the bleeding in golden retriever it course if you could. My wife informed me from "internet knowledge" It's two weeks.
Even in terrible situation it's good to find a reason to grin this is my personal conclusion from my personal experience. Can share.
If you want to know I didn't believe this mating give me a fruits especially the rotten one. As you know You need to believe something or somebody(maybe you are different). I will give you an example if you ask me why I gave this example I will answer straight away because this I have on my mind.
Do you know Mr Bailey from BoE he made sure thousands of people it's worth to buy overpriced houses because he will keep rates down and inflation is transitory. Lots of believed. Unfortunately for many he was wrong.
So try to imagine woman in her thirties which soon will be struggling to choose to pay mortgage bill or maybe pay for new born food. Her and her husband's new house which supposed to be investment will become trap. Husband listened a lot of news from mass media which just vomited with news how good idea is it to buy a house. Let imagine in a few months time when average home will be paying over 3k for energy with many household which be sticker with 5k energy price tag a question. Why we didn't think about that earlier. I will tell you why people make mistakes. My was I trusted on several occasions when I shouldn't.
Spayed. I've been asked about that many times in veterinary centre. I'm against that. The changes in hormones make it changes in personality.
If you like to know I think spayed should be sexual criminals not dogs for your or other owners comfort. But this is my personal opinion.
But contraception pill for dog for a season period would be a interesting product.
What happened is happened I join this forum to find out is anybody had similar situation to advice me not how to prevent dog from being pregnant but what is legal ground of somebody's stupid claim I will need to fight with.
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