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It's supposedly all natural is helps with anxiety. Has anyone tried it? If so, please tell me your experiences!
 

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I've used it for many years during thunder storms for Vegas. I think it helps, but it's not a end all type thing. He is still scared, but many times he'll put himself in the bathroom and spend the storm there instead of running around barking.
 

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I didn't see it in the dog formula... but I was ticked off when I bought some for a cat I adopted some years ago. My fault I guess for not looking at the ingredients but as soon as I opened the bottle I smelled alcohol.

I honestly felt like some dweep ripped off by a snake oil salesman as that was what most of their concoctions had in them.

My cat, Kayla, had come from an abusive home and Everything had her scared and hissing. I thought maybe some natural supplement would help and ordered in a small bottle of it. Getting my cat drunk wasn't my idea of natural calming.

Even now, some 10 years later I looked to see if it's still being sold and it is...and they have the amazing gall to put 'alcohol' down as an Inactive Ingredient!

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Rescue Remedy Drops & Spray. (for cats)
Active Ingredients - HPUS 5x dilution of Helianthemum nummularium, Clematis vitalba, Impatiens glandulifera, Prunus cerasifera, and Ornithogalum umbellatum.
Inactive Ingredients - Alcohol.
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I think you should talk to your vet about this first, or at least someone very knowledgeable when it comes to herbs and their effects and side effects on dogs. I know I can't trust a company that calls alcohol and inactive ingredient. I also can't even call alcohol a 'natural' one either, given it's a process of fermenting and distilling. Most people I think, consider 'seeping' a herb in hot water natural, but not much more than that for processing.

Just my 2 cents.

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Oh no :( I know I'm the one for humans there is alcohol, but I know that now at least they make one for pets without alcohol
 

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I think you should talk to your vet about this first, or at least someone very knowledgeable when it comes to herbs and their effects and side effects on dogs. I know I can't trust a company that calls alcohol and inactive ingredient. I also can't even call alcohol a 'natural' one either, given it's a process of fermenting and distilling. Most people I think, consider 'seeping' a herb in hot water natural, but not much more than that for processing.

Just my 2 cents.

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Just so you know, rescue remedy is not an herbal product, nor is it made by "seeping" anything in hot water. I believe Bach Flowers are now made radionically, although that it not how Dr Edward Bach originally made his essences. Flower essence have no active ingredients in the bottle at all, just water and alcohol. The alcohol is used to preserve the essence of the flower, considering that animal or human gets a few drops in the water with alcohol, a very small amount is consumed. You need to understand that flower essences are energy medicine and do not work in the same way as herbal remedies, so unless a vet or person has an understanding of flower essences they are going to know diddly about the remedies and are the last person to ask because they will be coming from a place of ignorance. Bach Flowers (the company) actually had them classified as homeopathic a few years ago (so they can make claims otherwise not approved by the FDA), although they are not.
 

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Just so you know, rescue remedy is not an herbal product, nor is it made by "seeping" anything in hot water.
I happened to tast the product I bought for my cat...and there was a LOT of alcohol in it...more then I would think it would take to preserve the essence of anything. And cats are notorious for not reacting to meds and things the same way as dogs and humans. Ex: you can't give a cat aspirin, but it's ok for a dog to have a little.

As far as how it's made, I wasn't talking about that product specifically but any product that uses herbs or plant matter no matter it's form, as the basis of it's ingredients and selling points. To many people 'natural' implies that it's safer and better than man-made chemical meds. That's not always the case.

I still say, that no matter what, alcohol shouldn't be called an inactive ingredient...it's not water - it also burns the tongue and throat...something I wouldn't want my cat to have to deal with when she was already stressed by things.

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I happened to tast the product I bought for my cat...and there was a LOT of alcohol in it...more then I would think it would take to preserve the essence of anything. And cats are notorious for not reacting to meds and things the same way as dogs and humans. Ex: you can't give a cat aspirin, but it's ok for a dog to have a little.

As far as how it's made, I wasn't talking about that product specifically but any product that uses herbs or plant matter no matter it's form, as the basis of it's ingredients and selling points. To many people 'natural' implies that it's safer and better than man-made chemical meds. That's not always the case.

I still say, that no matter what, alcohol shouldn't be called an inactive ingredient...it's not water - it also burns the tongue and throat...something I wouldn't want my cat to have to deal with when she was already stressed by things.

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You need 40% alcohol in these products or the essence will lose potency very quickly once opened. You might not have been talking about flower essences, but you need to understand they are not in any way shape or form the same as herbal preparations let alone pharmaceutical drugs. There is literally nothing in flower essences except water and alcohol, nothing. There is the vibrational pattern of the flowers captured in water. This is not like medications at all, which have active ingredients that have an effect on bodily enzymes. If you don't like the alcohol then in the product then don't give it to your cat (btw, you can buy flower essences with vegetable glycerine if you want).

Give me a flower essence with a bit of alcohol over a pharmaceutical drug any day, but I am funny that way.
 

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OP, my vet recommended Zylkene for my dog. I haven't tried it yet, but am about to. Just something to look into.

I've tried so called calming treats and they did nothing. But my boys anxiety is pretty high.
 

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@Gnostic Dog - Even disregarding all the other stuf ...

Alcohol burns the tongue...why anyone in their right mind would do that to a cat that is already stressed is stupid and it angers me that they put that product out on the market and that I almost gave some to my cat...not to mention the money I spent on what is basically an itty bitty bottle of water and alcohol. I was expecting something more on the lines of an extract in oil.

When I opened that jar and smelled nothing but alcohol, I put only a few drops on my tongue and could feel that alcohol burn with just those few drops.
For my cat, though - given her tongue was sooo much smaller - what was just a few drops to me, it would have totally washed her whole tongue in alcohol.

At least the dog version of that remedy doesn't have alcohol...which is weird...if they are using the same kind of flower processing that you described for the cat remedy to 'preserve' that essence. I just think it's stupid to use alcohol as a base for something that is suppose to bring comfort to a stressed animal.

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@Gnostic Dog - Even disregarding all the other stuf ...

Alcohol burns the tongue...why anyone in their right mind would do that to a cat that is already stressed is stupid and it angers me that they put that product out on the market and that I almost gave some to my cat...not to mention the money I spent on what is basically an itty bitty bottle of water and alcohol. I was expecting something more on the lines of an extract in oil.

When I opened that jar and smelled nothing but alcohol, I put only a few drops on my tongue and could feel that alcohol burn with just those few drops.
For my cat, though - given her tongue was sooo much smaller - what was just a few drops to me, it would have totally washed her whole tongue in alcohol.

At least the dog version of that remedy doesn't have alcohol...which is weird...if they are using the same kind of flower processing that you described for the cat remedy to 'preserve' that essence. I just think it's stupid to use alcohol as a base for something that is suppose to bring comfort to a stressed animal.

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Alcohol works better than vegetable glycerine to preserve the vibrational essence of the flowers in water that is why it is used. You can put the drops in the dog or cat's drinking water you don't need to give it directly by mouth. You can also put it on topically.
 
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