Its that, or my dogs are euthanized. Now who doesn't make sence?Cri, you're smart and knowledgeable about dogs. I often listen to and respect what you have to say as I think almost all of the time it makes sense. This time, allow me to disagree. Believe what you want about restricting dogs for 8-10 hours in a cage. If this will clear your conscience and make you feel better, so be it.
For me, who has had dogs all of my life, I cannot accept it as being normal. I cannot believe that people put their dogs in basements all day long either. What is this, 16th Century France?
Cri, thanks for coming to my rescue on this matter. I can honestly say that I was alot more than just insulted by Mimi's response. i think I did a good job of holding myself back in the response to that coment. The more I think about it the more I realize that the large majority of dog owners have full time jobs, and also goto sleep at night. So to suggest confining your dog to a certain area while you are away is such a cruel thing is way off base. (in my opinion) I am a new dog owner and enjoying it very much. I love my little Fizgig! Although he's quickly getting to be no so little very fast. I came on this forum to learn and get advise from experienced people. Up untill this comment it has all been very positive. But hey Life moves on. At this point I will continue to allow my dog full access to the basement, and as he gets older he should learn to hold his bladder. Once that time comes then he should be able to wait untill I get home to do his buisness.Perhaps you would like to walk us all through den instincts in dogs and explain why they don't apply to a crate? Would you let a human baby run around the house unsupervised so it can injure itself? One of my friends dogs DIED because he refused to crate him while he was a at work.
Terriers also have mandatory separation when unsupervised. Pit bulls and JRT are notorious for killing each other when the owner is absent. Ask ANY knowledgeable breeder... I own terriers, I would never put them in that position.
Tippy will eat walls unless she is sedated or IN A CRATE. Crate training is the only thing that has helped her anxiety...because its her den and safe.
Iam honestly completely insulted.
yup... and you'll find vets that say 10 hours is fine and then other vets who say not to use them at all. Vets will also tell you science diet is the best food ever and raw diet will kill your dog and everything in between.Well, to be honest, I don't know much about crates, never used them, I do know that dogs view them as their dens though, and like being in them, but not all dogs like them, I just keep my dog confined to her room when we're out, and she does fine. But one thing about crates though, my vet told me I shouldn't keep my dog in a crate more than 4-5 hours straight, so I dunno.
And no one here is... Tim is using an entire room for confinement. Mine are 6 hours max... but if my schedual changed where it would be longer then it would be longer.Actually my vet also has a degree in animal behavior, and used to be a quite successful PR trainer he's the guy I trust the most when it comes to horses and dogs he also gave me quite a few recipes for making my own dog food , he's uber cool
But anyhow, I don't think I can crate a dog for 10 hours a day, AND the night as well, seems a bit too long, but that's maybe cause I never used them.
There are long time prisoners who do not want to be released from prison. They too feel secure in their cage/prison/den/crate!!
"I really find anything that keeps the dog in isolation or restricted for ANY period of time to be cruel."
The above is MY opinion to which I am entitled. This is a forum where each and everyone contributes their experiences, feelings and thoughts. I don't owe you, or anyone for that matter, an explanation about Den instincts which has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Please don't patronise me.