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I have an 11 month old JRT-Chi, and she's generally very healthy and active. No fleas, no tummy issues, poop looks good. :thumbsup:

About a month ago she suddenly jumped up and started licking her butt/tail base frantically, did this for about 3 minutes like it was on fire. I wondered if it was an anal gland issue, felt around but didn't feel anything odd, and she didn't react when I felt around there (other than a lot of curiosity about what I was doing!). After this she acted like nothing had happened, so I figured it was a one-time thing.

A few days later I noticed her fur looked thicker about 2" out from her tail base, which made me think there was a swelling. I checked it; didn't notice anything off and she was acting fine, lots of tail wagging and no weird licking. I held a warm, wet compress on it for 20 minutes and gave her a wash in case there was an irritant or gland issue (as per a vet suggestion found on google).

Another 2 weeks went by, and she did a manic tail-chasing one day, totally frantic, nipping at the base under her tail/side of her tail. I checked everything, nothing seemed off. Again, right after that everything seemed fine. Something she ate? She sometimes poops out one of my long hairs, so thought maybe that was in there.

Now today, she just did the same thing, and let me check it all out. When I applied a bit of pressure along the side of the tail 1" out, she licked my hand frantically - I take that as a sign that she's tender there? Right after, she curled up and went to sleep. 10 minutes later I gently rubbed circles along the base/outside/top of her tail, and she squirmed and gave me big eyes when I rubbed on one place on the left side, 1/2" down. :(

I've googled like crazy and it doesn't sound like Limber Tail Syndrome or Broken Tail, as she wags very enthusiastically, and has no issues with her tail. She doesn't drag her butt or lick unusually other than those few times. Poop looks fine (no worms).

Has anyone experienced anything similar? If she'd licked more or seemed irritated more I would have taken her to the vet, but these one-off moments, weeks apart, make this confusing. I don't want her in any pain or having any issues and if the swelling stays, I'll likely take her to the vet next week. My only hesitation is, I don't want them just putting her on antibiotics as an experiment 'in case' there's an infection. Any ideas?:confused:http://www.dogforum.com//www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/
 

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IMHO since this has been reoccuring off an on for a month I think it's time for a vet check. I would definitely have them check and see if the anal glands need to be expressed in addition to doing a full exam. If you're concerned about cost or them just treating willy mildly then make it clear when you schedule your appointment and when you check in that you want an estimate before any treatment is done. You have the right to decide what you do or don't want done to your dog. It's your vets duty to make recommendations and explain your pets health issues so that you fully understand and are comfortable with the medical decisions you're making on behalf of your pet. If you have a good vet they should not be offend by any request for an estimate or decisions made to customize the treatment plan to your families preferences.
 

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animalcraker I'm not concerned with cost, more that they'd prescribe something without knowing what the issue is. I know antibiotics can be hard on their system and still not fix the issue. Mainly I'm asking because someone might have experienced this and if the vet has no ideas, it would be great to have something to ask about. :)
 

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Just voice your concerns about antibiotics and I'm sure they'll be very understanding :) If the skin is raised and she seems irritated by it, then it may be hives from something she's allergic to in the environment. I think a vet check is the only real solution here.
 

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Just an update in case anyone's ever searching with the same symptoms. Fin had impacted anal glands, though the vet was surprised as when they were expressed, they barely smelled!

It definitely made a difference, she's running around like a goofy 4 month old now, happy as can be! :) You nailed it animalcraker, even though I checked that area and didn't feel anything, and she didn't flinch when I poked, it was those darn glands.
 

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To keep that from happening you can add organic prunes to her meals 2 times a week. Just chop them up and add to a regular meal. I don't know why but it keeps the glands clean.
 

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my dog Jessie ended up with so many infected impacted anal glands we had to take them out i even tried the prunes! we even flushed them twice and much more. was $900 to get them taken out but absolutely worth it for my little Jessie not to be scooting, licking that area, bothered, and not to be shaking on exam table or yelping when expressed them via vet and it goes on. Last time before taken out got expressed her legs were shaking badly on that table.

after being taken out took 2 week of 2 antibiotics to clear infection up. I do have to say i dont miss the smell coming from that end other then house clearing farts a few days or so ago lol. I do hope your dog can keep her anal glands and dont run into all the troubles i did with Jessie
 

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Zody does that and it's been traced to a few things.

His anal glads are bothering him, usually when it's that it's paired with a fishy smell and butt scooting.

He's developed colitis, that's paired with other things involving his poo, tensing his stomach when it was pressed, and hiding due to pain.

He's sprained his back, he'd tense his stomach when it was slightly pressed, random yelping, and hiding.

And last but not least and what we're currently dealing with... drum roll please.... Allergies. He pairs the butt irritations with scratching his neck and sides, and allergy medicine lessens the butt irritations.

The butt irritation pretty much seems to mirror your girls in each case, he'll whip his tail to the side, glance at his butt, take off running like something stung him, stop and start licking at his butt. The difference is that in each case he becomes desperate for me to rub / scratch the base of his tail.
 

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I'll see how this goes, might just take her to the vet every 4 months to be expressed and hopefully that clears up any issues. There was no infection at least, and no scooting. I was quite surprised that she had this issue, actually!
 

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To keep that from happening you can add organic prunes to her meals 2 times a week. Just chop them up and add to a regular meal. I don't know why but it keeps the glands clean.
I was under the impression that prunes, like raisins, are extremely toxic to dogs?
 

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It's common in small dogs id think because larger dogs generally no trouble with anal glands. Also Jessie was 9/10 month old. 10 month old she had luxatting patella and infected anal glands. Just to warn you what comes out when expressed can be green and if ever smells its enough to make you want to get out the room. No jokes and not trying to scare you
 

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prunes are not related to grapes/raisins and no toxicity that I am aware of. Can cause diarrhea, just as in people, though. Even grapes/raisins are 'toxic' to only certain dogs, while others are able to eat large quantities with no problem. There has yet to found a toxic principle for those individual dogs who do develop renal disease following ingestion of this fruit. We treat all dogs as potentially sensitive when they ingest a lot of raisins or grapes, since there is no way to tell which are the overly sensitive dogs and which aren't before it's too late... but I have seen many dogs that have eating hundreds of grapes or raisins with no untoward symptoms whatsoever. Still, better to be safe than sorry.
 

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Yes, we have experienced something very similar to that. My dog did the same thing and one day I seen this little white sliver of what I thought was white paper next to her stool, it was a tapeworm segment. Flea tapeworms do not cause too many problems for dogs as with some other tapeworms, however, dried segments do! My dog, and I don't know how had tapeworms for 4 years and we didn't know until they put her on Pred which let the tapeworm get out of control. But tapeworm segments can get in the dogs anal glands and dry and then eventually break open and let those nasty irritating eggs get all over. And the eggs will cause severe irritation and sometimes even turn the perianal and rectum dark dark red to almost black. You may never see a segment come out if the dog is taking care of them when they do. My dog was eating them as soon as they came out and caused ulcers on her inner lips and soft palate. Tapeworms may never show any symptoms, including weight loss so it might be a good idea to ask the vet if they think it could be that.
 

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It's been a week since her glands were expressed, and the swelling is still on her tail, and she's still licking at it occasionally. I'd also swear it's slightly further down her tail than before, maybe 1/4-1/2 an inch. The vet checked her tail and didn't feel anything, and concluded it must only be her glands. When her glands were full, that was the end of it.

Google finds NOTHING on this, and I'd expect to see something similar from somewhere. Not sure what to do now. :(
 

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Can you look at it with a magnifying glass or something similar. I find all kinds of crap on my dog doing that. Things look totally different when they are magnified. Keep checking her and searching google. If you can give me all the signs and symptoms again, I will do a search also while searching on my dog
 
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