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Hi

My 13 (ish) yo rescue collie x retriever started eating a lot less on New Years Eve - from a dog who bolts everything you give him to eating about two thirds. I called the vet who said to tempt him with "treats" like chicken and to call back if no improvement. He wolfed the chicken but since then he had eaten less and less. He has refused all dog food (I tried switching brands) for 48 hours and now won't even eat any "treats". Today he has suddenly starting drinking LOADS of water.

I called the vet who is only operating an emergency service today; they advised that it's not an emergency as yet so to bring him in tomorrow which of course I will do, but Google brought me to these forums so I thought I'd pick brains on here meanwhile.

BTW he has lost no weight (he is at an ideal weight) but in fact a couple of people have thought in recent weeks he'd put a bit on. In every other respect he's 100% normal, active, full of life etc.

Any ideas? Really worried :(
 

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Increased water intake worries me more than the not eating. It could be signs of infection or kidney problems. Make sure he has plenty of fresh water until you can get him into the vets.
 

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Call another vet and try to get in today.
Even more worried now! I felt it was an emergency but felt I might be paranoid. There will be no vets open at 10pm on a bank holiday, sadly, so have a long 11 hour wait till they re-open tomorrow.

Although it is 48 hours since he has eaten dog food, he did eat a little chicken and pork yesterday and I have just persuaded him to eat a little pate - but 200g of pate compared with his usual 1.2kg of dog food is negligible :-(
 

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Make sure he has plenty of fresh water until you can get him into the vets.
Will do, thanks.
 

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I usually don't worry too much when my dogs are off their feed for a day, but the older they get then that changes, I do worry a bit more. I still probably wouldn't rush one to emergency...but would try to get in and see my vet the next day if possible.

Your dog's issue could be one of just many things...minor or major problems.

I lost a dog to diabetes and I do recall that her loss of appetite and increase in water came on bit by bit...it didn't just happen in one day. It was only the last 3 days of her life that she quit eating almost everything. I already had her scheduled to be put to sleep but that was delayed twice...thus the 3 days of her going like that.

Anyway, if your dog did this suddenly, and you haven't seen weight loss yet, then hopefully, it's something different and something minor.

Also, have you checked his teeth? See if there is some redness on the gums around any of them or major plaque build up? I had an elderly dog that quit eating due to tooth pain. In spite of her age, I risked having her put under for a tooth cleaning and extraction of several bad teeth. She came out of it fine.
I figured the risk was better than living life with tooth pain and losing weight she couldn't afford to loose due to not wanting to eat. She was a thin dog to begin with.

Hope it's nothing serious with your dog.

Stormy
 
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Some form of a diabetic complication, would be my guess, but that's just guessing. His age is, unfortunately not in his favor, but you need your Vets involvement. Hopefully you have been able to get him to the Vet today. Let us know what your Vet finds.
 

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Thanks guys. The good news is that by getting him all excited which I do when I give him a treat, I did get him to eat a small meal of roast pork, lamb and gravy (as a veggie, had to Google how to cook it!!). He brought a bit up later, but only a little.

I lost a dog to diabetes and I do recall that her loss of appetite and increase in water came on bit by bit
This was VERY sudden; if anything he was trying it on to get extra food up until a few days ago and he always wolfs it down in once go. Difficult to say re when the drinking increased; it was very noticeable today but because water is always there - and I am not - it's difficult to tell then he has been drinking; particularly as he has a habit of drinking out of the loo so it's hard to tell how much has disappeared!

it could be diabetes if he is drinking allot. is his tummy swollen?
It's quite hard to tell, a couple of people including me had observed that he had been "filling out" a bit but I put that down to the vet's advice to reduce his exercise coz of sore joints. But he is just soooo covered in thick long fur I find it difficult to say if there is swelling as such but possibly a little yes.

I had an elderly dog that quit eating due to tooth pain
His gums are red but they always seem to be. I'm pretty sure it's not tooth pain though because he is an avid chewer; he was on a farm yesterday and spent nearly 5 hours gnawing on branches or playing tug of war with me with lumps of wood! Plus when I did get him to eat a bit of pork earlier, he picked out the pieces of impossibly hard cracking first and demolished it :)

His age is, unfortunately not in his favor
I know the feeling!! That worries me, but on the other hand apart from a bit of joint pain he is generally so fit, healthy and strong so hopefully that will count for something.

Hopefully you have been able to get him to the Vet today.
Sadly it was a Bank Holiday here yesterday (UK) so emergency service only which vet said this wasn't. 7 hours till they open, hope I can get an early appointment. Will certainly keep you al updated and thanks again for your help.
 

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I wonder if he is filling up on water and not hungry? I'm diabetic, type 1. And sometimes I am so thirsty and drink so much that it upsets my stomach and I just don't want to eat. Good luck at the vets, I hope everything works out for you.
 
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Interesting thought. Hopefully I'll know later today. Added a Profile on here now while I'm waiting for vet to open. No point trying to sleep!!
 

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I am guessing your dog is a diabetic as well, only one that is now in ketoacidosis (a complicating condition in which a dog's own muscles are broken down for energy as the body no longer has the insulin or insulin receptors to use sugar for food)... but muscle breakdown causes a severely acidic blood with is very bad for you (happens commonly in people, too), and can make you feel terrible, vomit a lot, and incredibly thirsty... untreated, most dogs (and people) will eventually die. I hope you get your puppy in as soon as possible (no overnight emergency where you live?). In my area, there is always a vet open somewhere.
 

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(no overnight emergency where you live?).
Yes but they determine whether it is a qualifying emergency, not you, and they said it wasn't. Only 4 hours to go before they open. Crazy thing is he seems so content, happy, keen to play. If this diagnosis is correct, is treatment simple and effective?
 

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If he is diabetic he will need insulin shots, I'd assume you'd need to test his blood sugar levels too. But if dogs are like people with ketoacidosis he would be vomiting. he would be acting very sick. It's a horrible feeling. My breath smells fruity when my blood sugar levels are high, I don't know if that holds true for dogs as well. They sell test stripes over the counter for people to test for ketones, but you need to pee on the stick.
 
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Okay, 24 hours later an update. Kept in for pee test, blood tests and ultrasound after cursory exam revealed nowt.

Liver and kidneys fine, no sign of diabetes, but positive for urinary infection!! They assure me that cud explain symptoms? Anti inflammatory pain killers and antibiotic. But former only to be administered with food, how to do that with dog on hunger strike? Can't get him to eat ANYTHING but apparently these meds without food can cause stomach ulcers?
 

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Okay, 24 hours later an update. Kept in for pee test, blood tests and ultrasound after cursory exam revealed nowt.

Liver and kidneys fine, no sign of diabetes, but positive for urinary infection!! They assure me that cud explain symptoms? Anti inflammatory pain killers and antibiotic. But former only to be administered with food, how to do that with dog on hunger strike?
Is there any treat like fresh steak that might appeal? When Samantha was sick and wouldn't eat, we were giving her grass fed beef, which she would eat, at least a little. Cheese is another favorite possibility. You only need to get him feeling a little better, then food should rapidly become very important once again.
 

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Glad to hear your pet's condition is not so serious. Not sure why there is no appetite, but sometimes any infection can knock out the appetite temporarily. You can ask for first doses to be given as injections (though not sure why there is an anti-inflammatory prescribed). Antibiotics can sometimes be given as a long acting injection. They are the most important drug for treating a urinary tract infection (UTI). Hope he feels better soon and starts to eat for you. They take a culture? Should know in 3-4 days if antibiotics they picked are the right ones then.
 

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Thanks again everyone. An update:

Is there any treat like fresh steak that might appeal?
I was ahead of you! That's exactly what I bought him and though he did not eat much it was enough to conceal the liquid painkillers. Today he has eaten 300g of sliced ham, 200g of roast pork and about 200g of ..... dog food! First time he has touched the stuff in days. Still little more than half what he normally eats but a MASSIVE improvement!

You can ask for first doses to be given as injections
That's well worth knowing thanks, but fortunately, as you now know, we're fine; just squirted the pain killer into his sliced ham and he was none the wiser!
 

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Further to above update, just posted on his profile a wee pic of him back in our local bar patiently waiting to be served!!
 
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