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I have been looking at Aussies, Collies and Standard Poodles. I have been leaning toward Collies and I found a breeder with some young puppies. I was quoted a price that is significantly lower than what other breeders are asking for the other breeds I mentioned The breeder shows her dogs and I didn't see anything negative in my research i will not be showing the dog.

Should I be concerned about the price?
Unfortunately, I'm not close enough to visit the breeder.
 

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I have been looking at Aussies, Collies and Standard Poodles. I have been leaning toward Collies and I found a breeder with some young puppies. I was quoted a price that is significantly lower than what other breeders are asking for the other breeds I mentioned The breeder shows her dogs and I didn't see anything negative in my research i will not be showing the dog.

Should I be concerned about the price?
Unfortunately, I'm not close enough to visit the breeder.
I'm not saying that this is the right way to think but I would be concerned. I am also puppy shopping! :) I am 95% sure that I want an Aussie. I found several breeders- one on a recommendation from a friend. I determined the average price for my area- seems to be about $1800. I found one breeder that charges $800 and I immediately dismissed them. Again, I'm not saying that I'm right. I'm just leery when I see 1 breeder SO much lower than the rest.

Are there any shows that you can visit to chat with people? I'll be visiting an Aussie show this weekend and hopefully making some connections. I need more real life dog friends haha. Are you in a rush to bring home a pup or can you take the time to chat with people and then decide?

I would also recommend going to see the breeder before choosing to buy a pup from them. Even if it's only one time. Even if it's not convenient.

Good luck in your search!
 

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I am not in a big hurry ideally, going to visit woukd be best. I may be able to see the breeder at some shows but it's not the same as a home visit.
 

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Oh I totally agree. I was more thinking of the shows as a way to make contacts within the breed and to hear the 'word on the street' about certain breeders.
 

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Collie price will vary from 1500 (champion lines/champion parents OR by reseller) to 500 (not a breeding home, just occasional litter).
Normal price range for sable 800-1000, for blue 1000-1200, for white factored it could be a bit higher.
Finding a breeder is a tricky part. You can start with AKC breeders of merit list, or look at the puppyfind.com for a breeder that sells collies ONLY and is a member of the puppyfind for many years.
You can look at their websites, if they have them.
Make sure that they have a contract and electronic copies of puppy papers available in exchange for the down payment, which is usually 200-300.
My first collie here was from the backyard breeder, hence, many health problems. It was before internet era. My second one was from the puppyfind from the serious breeder. The third one I wanted to get from her as well, but it turned out she was not very ethical on the business side, so I got a pup from another breeder who I found on the puppyfind also. I searched internet for any references to their name, their kennel name, and I called her. Puppy pics also are telling.
 

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Normal price range for sable 800-1000, for blue 1000-1200, for white factored it could be a bit higher.
Finding a breeder is a tricky part. You can start with AKC breeders of merit list, or look at the puppyfind.com for a breeder that sells collies ONLY and is a member of the puppyfind for many years.
Any breeder charging different prices based on color is a massive red flag and should be avoided. You also need to be cautious when searching puppyfind. Yes there are some great breeders on there who are trying to make themselves available to new owners and steer you on the right path in the hopes you won't end up accidentally supporting a poor quality breeder. The problem is the good breeders often times they won't have any pups available or have the same dog listed for years and that throws people off; and the lower quality breeders will tell you what you want to hear with out any actual proof or substance to support their claims.

Heres what I look for in when I'm looking at breeders:
Do they health test? This means they should be doing xrays ideally sent to OFA, specialty bloodwork, cardiac evaluations by a specialist, or eye evaluation by a specialist depending on the breed and what genetic health issues they suffer from. Simply saying that they have been examined by their regular vet and determined to be healthy is not good enough. I want to see actual reports with the results of those tests, certificates for passing the tests, or the actual xrays themselves. And if there is a national registry that they claim the results are registered with, them I'm going to search for the information on the database myself to confirm that the information they gave me was correct and accurate.
Do they do anything with their breeding dogs? I want a dog from a breeder who can prove their dogs worth and back up their claims. All dogs make wonderful house pets, but there's tons of great dogs dying in the shelter system everyday so simply breeding a dog because they're a loving companion is not a good enough reason to breed IMO. I want a breeder who competes with their dog in some way(i.e. Conformation shows, obedience, lure coursing, agility, etc.) or actually does the job the breed was designed for( i.e. Hunting, herding, tracking, etc.). They also need to be able to have substance to their claims that their dogs are good at whatever it is they do. Being 1st in a class of 1 doesn't really impress me too much, especially if that's your biggest "claim to fame". I show my dogs in conformation, so I've heard quite a few puffed up claims on how magnificent someone's dog is, but when you actually dig deeper into the facts you'll find out that the only way the dog could have lost was if they didn't show up because there was no competition to begin with. And they can't be riding the coat tails of the breeder before them. Saying that a dog comes from macnificent champion or working lines, without actually doing the work and proving that the parents of your pup are as wonderful as their relatives, just doesn't fly with me.
Are they raising their dogs and pups in the way they claim to be? This one is a bit of a pet peeve for me. I am fairly reasonable with different ways that people choose to raise and keep their pets, but if you claim that your dogs sleep in bed with you every night and watch tv on the coutch with you everyday while you work from home then that better be how they are actually raised. I can't tell you how many times I've seen breeders claim these things and then they post pictures on their websites of there dogs in a converted barn and dog runs. I have no problem with the converted barn or dog runs, as long as they are clean, but if a breeder is willing to lie about it, it makes me wonder what else they are lying about.

There's quite a few other nit picky things that I look for in breeders, but those are the biggies. If you any questions about a particular breeder you could ask us our opinions here so you can make a more informed choice on what you may or may not be comfortable with in a breeder.
 
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