Dog Forum banner

1 - 15 of 15 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
24 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
We gave our 1 year old dog a flea treatment for the first time (we've only had him about 6 weeks). He didn't have fleas, but we love to take him on hikes and other outdoor activities, so figured it would be best to prevent a flea problem ahead of time. We used an all natural treatment called Natural Care. He seemed super unsettled after applying it (it does have a really strong smell). He rolled on the ground on his back, and seemed to be annoyed by the smell of it. We weren't sure if he just didn't like the feeling of it, or if it caused him discomfort. It has been about 18 hours since we applied it, and he seems to have settled down. Eating normally, drinking normally, and no longer rolling around on his back. He just still seems to be not crazy about the smell and slightly unsettled, but less than last night. Is it normal for dogs to freak out when getting flea treatment applied? :ponder: Would love to hear others experiences, as we are first time dog owners.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,822 Posts
Out of curiosity, I looked up the product...you didn't mention if it was a spray or powder. I chose the spray to check ingredients. One of the ingredients was Eugenol - which is a clove oil.

It might be as you said, that your pup just didn't like the smell...but also, the mint and Eugenol oils in the spray (if that is what you used)...might have irritated his skin a little. People who use tea tree oils on their pets should try some on a slight rash or cut on their own body and find out how that stuff burns like fire until it finally numbs things.

Here's an article about eugenol - you might read it, plus all the comments as there is further discussion about it there:

The Darker Side Of Eugenol Oil | Pest Cemetery


I am always on the alert for 'natural' products because I know that just because something is natural it doesn't mean it's always safe either. I don't want to scare ya....your dog is probably fine, but from what I read, I sure wouldn't let him lick the stuff off. And, ??? it might be safer than man made chemicals used to stop fleas. ???

I've used stuff like Frontline and similar products on my pets. I don't like doing so - but I don't want a flea infestation either. I can, but only hope the major companies that produce those types of flea control have years of study and tests for their products...and are not willfully putting out products that are super dangerous. I think though that some smaller companies just blend up products without long term testing and sell their concoctions without true knowledge of what some of the side effects can be for some dogs.

Stormy
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,320 Posts
Don't know much about 'natural care' but if it has a very strong odor I can understand his objection. Since dogs have a sense of smell that is roughly 10,000 times stronger than ours, think about how strong an odor that had to be to a dog. All flea treatments can have side effects. We have had best luck and the least side effects with Frontline + with Samantha. She reacted to two of the oral meds we tried, so went back to Frontline +. I don't treat her during the winter months, but it is an absolute necessity during the summer months in this area.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,224 Posts
Like others have said, natural isn't always better, as allergic reactions can still happen. Us personally, when we used chemical pesticides twice we ended up in the emergency clinic for chemical burns. So, we went with wondercide. Its natural, but still should be used carefully at first to check for reactions. Its rare with this product to have issues, which we never have. Its been a life saver for us. Maybe look into it as an option. Even our sensitive ones have done perfect with it. Their web site is Wondercide Natural Products | As Seen on Shark Tank! | Natural Products for Pets, People and Property
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
1,222 Posts
Put some on your skin, see if it causes any reaction.

I thankfully haven't had to deal with fleas in the last 20 years, been lucky. But we always had stray dogs and cats in the house growing up and literally had to burn a couch set due to infestations. Never found much of anything that really worked well.

I don't do proactive, just reactive.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
54 Posts
I have started to give my dogs brewer´s yeast a couple of months ago. I tried frontline at first, but they always went crazy for a little bit after applying it. So I put them on Nexguard for the last year or 2 but this year I wanted to see if I could get away without using any kind of chemicals. They just eat the tables with their breakfast, and so far I have not seen one tick nor any fleas.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
66 Posts
We gave our 1 year old dog a flea treatment for the first time (we've only had him about 6 weeks). He didn't have fleas, but we love to take him on hikes and other outdoor activities, so figured it would be best to prevent a flea problem ahead of time. We used an all natural treatment called Natural Care. He seemed super unsettled after applying it (it does have a really strong smell). He rolled on the ground on his back, and seemed to be annoyed by the smell of it. We weren't sure if he just didn't like the feeling of it, or if it caused him discomfort. It has been about 18 hours since we applied it, and he seems to have settled down. Eating normally, drinking normally, and no longer rolling around on his back. He just still seems to be not crazy about the smell and slightly unsettled, but less than last night. Is it normal for dogs to freak out when getting flea treatment applied? :ponder: Would love to hear others experiences, as we are first time dog owners.
Lol I bet it's the smell. We use Revolution and all my dogs hate the smell of it and tend to roll around once I get it on them. Once it dissipated they got over it. Unless you see redness of the skin, or severe reactions like vomiting etc. I think he's all good.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
24 Posts
Discussion Starter #8
Thanks for all the input! About a day or so after the treatment, he went back to his normal self (once the smell began to fade). We may try wondercide next time around, just because I felt bad he hated the smell so much! :ponder:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5 Posts
I prefer humane lab tested products with a proper evidence base to back them up. My favourite is Advocate made by Bayer. It is incredibly affective, but my dogs hate the smell and will sulk after application. I will sulk too, as I also dont like the smell. But it is gone in 12 hours, so it's a small price to pay.

Natural remedies might have FDA approval for safty, but their efficacy will not have been rigorously tested. Herbal treatments that have long running traditional uses are allowed to make some claims about their supposed affectiveness, but this is rarely if ever backed up by robust testing.

Dont misinterpret chemical products as dangerous and unnatural, because natural doesnt always mean safe. Like people taking high doses of Vit B to stop mozzie bites. There is no emphirical evidence that this works. Yet DEET has a long standing record of efficacy and safety following decades of testing and meta analysis.

Im not into sales pitches and emotional bribary using 'all natural ingredients.' I want thoroughly well tested products that are proven safe and efficacious in multitudinal trials.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,224 Posts
I prefer humane lab tested products with a proper evidence base to back them up. My favourite is Advocate made by Bayer. It is incredibly affective, but my dogs hate the smell and will sulk after application. I will sulk too, as I also dont like the smell. But it is gone in 12 hours, so it's a small price to pay.

Natural remedies might have FDA approval for safty, but their efficacy will not have been rigorously tested. Herbal treatments that have long running traditional uses are allowed to make some claims about their supposed affectiveness, but this is rarely if ever backed up by robust testing.

Dont misinterpret chemical products as dangerous and unnatural, because natural doesnt always mean safe. Like people taking high doses of Vit B to stop mozzie bites. There is no emphirical evidence that this works. Yet DEET has a long standing record of efficacy and safety following decades of testing and meta analysis.

Im not into sales pitches and emotional bribary using 'all natural ingredients.' I want thoroughly well tested products that are proven safe and efficacious in multitudinal trials.
Deet has been known to cause lots of problems. I know first hand, since my husband and son both had to go to the ER for dangerous burn reactions. The ER doctor told us they see Deet related injuries every year, and there have been numerus lawsuits because of it. He then advised something like skin so soft instead.

Natural isn't always safe, no, but look up how many lawsuits/injuries/fatalities there are from anything that's a man made, chemical pesticide, vs. something like wondercide. The chances of a problem are much less.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2 Posts
I think you can consult your doctor soon, because if Lyme disease is left untreated for a substantial amount of time, dogs can have horrible infections that can cause kidney failure and even death. It is important to protect your dog from tick and flea infestation. You can also call professional tick control CT specialist to deal with the issue.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
502 Posts
I agree, probably the smell. Natural can cause reactions too. It's not always safer. Plus, I find natural flea products to all smell VERY strong, and oftentimes useless, so I don't use them.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
125 Posts
Several years ago I used a topical treatment on my dog, I think it was Revolution, and he started crying and rubbing his back in the grass. I only used it that one time because I felt like he may have been in pain. We use a different treatment now and it seems to not cause any discomfort.
 
1 - 15 of 15 Posts
Top