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Hi. We don't have a puppy yet but am in the research process.

Need some advice from house training experts as I am confused about the pros and cons to crates vs. play pens for house breaking puppies. I always just assumed when we get a puppy we would do the traditional crate training to teach puppy to "hold it" and use a play pen as a safe place for puppy to play inside the house to not get into any trouble, but NOT as a place with a potty area. But then people are advising me to use a play pen with a crate inside it for during the day when puppy is alone for 3-4 hours so puppy can pee/poop on pads. But then how is the puppy learning not to pee/poop inside and how are they learning to associate the outside/walks with doing their business?
 
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