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lots and lots of getting up to take the pupper outside....every accident in the crate makes it that much harder and takes that much longer to fix.

perhaps instead of a crate use an x pen with a puppy pad on one end?



 

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everyone says that their dogs that are pad trained som'how generalized the behavior to peeing on anything soft. I read this all the time on forums....heres my take on that.

Personally I've had no issues teaching Chili that you pee on pads inside and grass outside...

My aunt who bred toy poodles did the same thing...no issues with the dogs peeing on soft stuff.

Dogs don't generalize well...if they can't learn imediatly that a word means the same thing everywhere I have real trouble believing that they will generalize a puppy pad to mean "pee everywhere soft" dogs brains don't work like that.

That would involve them imediatly learning (on their own) that everywhere=ok to pee and "soft" (which is a tremendously variable word) = pee here.... dirt is soft...I don't know what kind of pads people are buying but they aren't exactly pillows...in fact I think my outside dirt is softer. So will peeing on dirt teach my dog to pee on a dusty floor? Or on a soft rug? I doubt it.

The texture of carpet is very different from a towel or a mat or a pee pad...also the odor and color is different....the dog knows its different just like you and I do.

So if you teach a dog to pee on grass shag carpet is now game? Nope. IN fact...in that thread...how many dogs pee ONLY in one area of the lawn? Thats because the reinforcement history (for whatever reason) is in that area...the dog hasn't generalized that the whole yard is rewarding to pee in....following me?



I think peeing on carpet and towels and clothes have their OWN reward/reinforcement history that happend to develop at the same time pads were being used. Perhaps more supervision is simply in order to prevent peeing on anywhere but the pads.

If they have an accident, its reinforced to pee where they were (bladder release is reinforcement) by properly managing the dog (supervising) and rewarding heavily for peeing ONLY on the pad will give you a dog without issues. :)

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Sorry I was not being clear, they started peeing on clothing or towels AFTER removing the puppy pads because I was told to remove them if I wanted the chi's to go outside. Sorry, during the time the puppy pads were down they used the puppy pads. I don't want to put them back down because then I am afraid the pup will start peeing on them again and not going outside....

Oh and we bought washable puppy pads so they are fabric. Dont know if that even matters or makes a difference LOL

wasn't directed at you :) just at the world, I've heard it said ALOT. So is this btw:

For the transition from pads to outside you have to use both for a while...perhaps a bland cookie for using the pad and a piece of chicken for going outside (outside peeing is better!yay chicken!)

Teaching inside/outside are two separate behaviors..each peeing place has its own reward history (this is why dogs hit for peeing in the living room now pee in another room, yet still in the house, still on carpet)

You wouldn't teach sit and then quit asking for sit to teach your dog to shake...you'd do both for a while and then gradually ask for the new behavior more and more :)

That and those damn tiny little bladders!!!



 

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btw our chihuahua sucks she is still peeing in the dang house, even did it in front of/next to my bf and not on the puppy pad. Luckily we have tile so I don't feel like screaming lol She really is not learning, even when we praise her for doing it outside. ugh

keep trying! Don't give up! She sounds like she has a long history of peeing inside...the longer the history, the longer the fix.

Are you treating her for going outside too? :)

Some dogs literally have to learn how to learn. Perhaps its time to start doing clicker games with her...it basically turns their little brains on. :)



 
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