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I need help!! I just bought a puppy from Chevromist Kennels without doing enough research or realising where they got their puppies from.... I am not worried about losing my money but we have fallen in love with our puppy!! We are due to pick it up in 10 days time but I dont know how I can possibly support such a terrible and inhumane business as puppy farming.... but I also dont want anything bad to happen to our puppy... please give me your thoughts!
 

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Ditto the above. Buying would just be enabling and giving them another sale. I would recommend telling them you will not be purchasing the puppy and Why. If you put down a non-refundable deposit you might not get that back, but you should be able to get the rest of the fee back.

Good for you for not wanting to support them. And at least you did your research before the pup was already home.... I would do some research on responsible breeders or go the rescue route.
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Ps... Falling in love with pups is easy peasy. But all pups are cute, especially from a distance.

As far as something bad happening to the pup, I don't know what their practices are for older, unsold pups, but buying this pup just helps them to continue to harm many, many more dogs by supporting puppy mills and their horrifying practices with the parent dogs and puppies.
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I'll jump on the don't take the pup bandwagon. Partially because it is supporting that type of business and partially because you don't know what you'll end up with temperament and health wise. Could turn out to be a good dog, could turn out to be a mess of genetic disease and/or behavioral issues.

Your best bet for a happy healthy puppy that will grow into a happy healthy dog is to get a pup from a reputable breeder that is carefully breeding for health and temperament. Ideally one that works and/or shows their dogs and that tests for genetically inherited diseases common to the breed.
 

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Thanks for your replies. I have pretty much decided not to get the puppy. My previous dogs have all been from breeders, but this time I have been on the look out for a cavoodle or labradoodle for the last 18 months and contacted countless breeders to no avail.. I am currently on a waiting list. But breeders hardly ever replied to emails or calls... If they want to promote this industry then they need to make it more professional and easier for people to purchase a well bread, suitable puppy. And also does anyone know if there are any regulations to do with puppy farms? Why are they allowed to operate at all??
Even though I financially support a couple of dog shelters I have also kept an eye out for puppies and I don't feel any of the breeds have been suitable for our life style and children.
I never thought I would have so much trouble getting a bloody puppy!!!
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the reason you are having problems finding reputable breeders are because those are designer dogs. Intentionally breeding mixes is almost always a disqualification for responsible breedings (the times it isn't is sporting line dogs that aren't sold to civilians).

If you really want one, talk to poodle, labrador, or cavalier rescues. They are the ones that clean up the mess these designer dog "breeders" leave behinf.
 

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Failed Slacker beat me to the post. There will not be any reputable breeders of designer dogs.

This is a recent thread that has some posts outlining designer dogs and their breeding. A few of the contained links may be helpful to you.

http://www.dogforum.com/dog-breeds/groodle-breeders-25017/
 

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I saw that too when I researched their web site. Dealing with bybers, and asking many $$. They don;t breed, so they get the rep as not a mill.
They are just brokers, and contribute to breeding anything that comes down the street, giving it a fancy name.
Many are probably oop-so pups.
You fell in love, but go to the spca, and you will find a multitude of beautiful mixed breeds that desperately are looking for someone to love them.
Then you can give them a designer name, but you will have done a great thing. You will get discounts on neutering and or spaying. Their shots will be up to date.
Do yourself a favor. Adopt.
 

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From what I understand, not being from Australia, there are reputable breeders of Labradoodles there because that is where the breed originated, but the dog and the flight will cost somewhere around $6,000 and up.

If you are looking or a suitable dog breed for your family I assume you have a list of requirements.

Now, if your list is specific then getting a mixed breed or "designer" dog is not a good idea because with any mix there are going to be random physical and personality traits. The whole reason to have registered and purebred dogs is so that people buying know what they are getting.

If your list isn't too specific then a shelter pup should fit the bill just fine and be inexpensive plus have the benefit of saving a life and of any discounts and support the shelter offers.

Maybe if you shared what you are looking for we could help direct you toward breeds and breeders.

Is there any reason you don't want to simply search out a good Poodle breeder since you seem to want an "oodle", which is a Poodle mix. They are intelligent dogs and come in 3 sizes to fit your needs :)

The difference between supporting a puppy mill and supporting a backyard breeder isn't much, really. Same goal:$$. Same chance of genetic or behavioral issues.
 

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Thanks again for the replies.
I have had a pound puppy as well as 2 pure breed dogs. The pound puppy had several health and personality issues. The two pure bread dogs had beautiful personalities but 1 of them physically was a mess from 6 months of age. Requiring surgery and on going medical attention for the rest of his life. He came from a "reputable" breeder that I was put on to through the Canine Association of Victoria and came with papers and parent hip scores etc etc etc.. but we still had issues with him. I understand that not all breeders are like this. But I also believe that not all breeders of "designer" breeds are in it just for the money, just like a believe that not all so called reputable breeders are what they say they are.
Just from my experience with looking for a puppy I think the whole industry needs to be more regulated.
Sigh..... I am really just over the whole thing!!! I might just get a cat instead :p
 

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Hmm, then I'd say either look for another purebred from a reputable breeder and trust the last experience was a fluke or head to a shelter and get a nice rescue mutt pup.
 

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I need help!! I just bought a puppy from Chevromist Kennels without doing enough research or realising where they got their puppies from.... I am not worried about losing my money but we have fallen in love with our puppy!! We are due to pick it up in 10 days time but I dont know how I can possibly support such a terrible and inhumane business as puppy farming.... but I also dont want anything bad to happen to our puppy... please give me your thoughts!
We bought both of our Labradoodles from them and we couldn't be more pleased. Both of our boys are the love of our lives. They are healthy, happy and just amazing.
I was first recommended to them by two of our neighbours who also bought their dogs from them (one Japanese Spitz and the other is a Moodle) I found them to be very professional, helpful and spoke with us for over an hour when we picked up our boys. You will find that there seems to be a lot of "petty" politics amongst breeders and shelters so your head will be spinning when you get all kinds of advice from breeders and shelters. Our dogs and my neighbours dogs have excellent temperaments and yes there are strict laws against puppy farms so there is no chance our dogs have come from a puppy farm. Best of luck.
 

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Buying a mutt is buying a mutt... Buying a labradoodle is buying a mutt and supporting something that shouldn't be happening....

You shouldn't buy a puppy with a 2 yr old as you are looking at possible issues such as mouthing and biting the child. If you insist on a pup, go to a shelter or pick a different breed
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You will find that there seems to be a lot of "petty" politics amongst breeders and shelters so your head will be spinning when you get all kinds of advice from breeders and shelters. Our dogs and my neighbours dogs have excellent temperaments and yes there are strict laws against puppy farms so there is no chance our dogs have come from a puppy farm. Best of luck.
I'm pretty sure our problems with puppy farms or mills are not petty. :eyeroll: And if the laws were truly strict, then puppy farms wouldn't be known for the substandard (read: neglectful) care they provide their dogs. But whatever helps you sleep at night. ... Pretend they don't exist or that a broker doesn't buy from anything but responsible, ethical breeders.

(PS. Kinda sounds like a seed for the biz to me....)
 

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Some people are so blind, even tho they can see.

We all have the same feeling about Designer Dogs, and just have to keep plugging away, trying to educate those that want the cutsie named mutts.

As Pawzaddict says, a mutt is a mutt, no matter what you call them.
 

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Aside from all the BYB stuff, you're pretty unlikely to find a breeder OR a rescue who will sell/adopt to a family with a two-year-old.
 

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I'm pretty sure our problems with puppy farms or mills are not petty. :eyeroll: And if the laws were truly strict, then puppy farms wouldn't be known for the substandard (read: neglectful) care they provide their dogs. But whatever helps you sleep at night. ... Pretend they don't exist or that a broker doesn't buy from anything but responsible, ethical breeders.

(PS. Kinda sounds like a seed for the biz to me....)
Earlier this year the rescue I worked with had to let 20 dogs go to death row because they were full from cleaning up one of these operations. I'm fine with being labelled petty if it means we don't have to waste space cleaning up these messes.
 
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