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If I put this is the wrong spot I am sorry, I wasn't sure where to put it.

A little background: I co-own a wildlife sanctuary that specialises in wolfdogs and foxes. We are currently in the process of moving onto a property with more land, so I am living with my parents (and brother) with my two cats. On a couple side notes: one of my cats has hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (thickened heart muscles). While I have never experienced having a pup myself (all of our babies were over a year when rescued), I have a lot of contacts/friends who are rescuers/dog owners/etc. I have also done a lot of research on dogs and owning one before starting the sanctuary, but ended up rescuing two cats instead.

My brother has always wanted a dog, but has never really researched what it was like to have one. Two weeks ago his gf got him an 8 week old german shepard/belgian malinois mix - out of the blue. There was literally no dog food/toys/etc. until like an hour before they got home. I work roughly sixty hours a week, but I found that I am home more than he is, forcing my parents to watch the pup. All of them refuse to listen to any of my suggestions on training, especially potty training (I even woke up this morning to the pup whining to go potty and my brother telling him to 'shut up' and they all yell at the pup when he has an accident). He has yet to make a vet visit, which worries me because the pup has two dew claws that hang too loosely for my liking. He is still fed (with the expensive stuff, thank the gods) and watered, and taken outside for potty breaks, but most of the time he is crated or in my brothers room. Heck, there isn't even a fence put up around the yard so he can run and play. I KNOW GS's and Belgians are high energy.

I want to take the puppy into my care but I just don't have the time for the pup at this moment. I even tried helping out but I kept getting shot down. I'm also afraid, because of the lack of training, the pup will go after my cats. I just don't know what to do.
 

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Oh dear :| Mal/GSD that's a lot of dog, an untrained one kept in a cage all day will become an absolute nightmare when older. He needs a home who has experience and knows how to handle him.

If your brother doesn't realise right now how much work he needs to put in to this dog this dog will be ruined. I would have a serious chat with him and try to convince him to give the dog to someone who has experience.

I know that's easier said than done with a family who constantly shoot you down but all you can do is try.
 

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Oh dear :| Mal/GSD that's a lot of dog, an untrained one kept in a cage all day will become an absolute nightmare when older. He needs a home who has experience and knows how to handle him.

If your brother doesn't realise right now how much work he needs to put in to this dog this dog will be ruined. I would have a serious chat with him and try to convince him to give the dog to someone who has experience.

I know that's easier said than done with a family who constantly shoot you down but all you can do is try.
Gods I have. I have printed out everything I can on GSD's and Belgians, and the mix, have even gotten basic puppy training books from friends. I tell all of them time and time again that this was not a good idea and they need to straighten up, but they tell me I know nothing because the sanctuary doesn't count as experience. I mean I know I'm not experienced, but even I can see what's going on is plain wrong.
 

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Gods I have. I have printed out everything I can on GSD's and Belgians, and the mix, have even gotten basic puppy training books from friends. I tell all of them time and time again that this was not a good idea and they need to straighten up, but they tell me I know nothing because the sanctuary doesn't count as experience. I mean I know I'm not experienced, but even I can see what's going on is plain wrong.
I don't know if there's much else you can do. Other than physically stealing the dog and taking it away, which is illegal, I don't know what else you can try.

Your family doesn't seem to want to take any of your advice and clearly think they know better. It's just unfortunate for the dog, cause when it's older and has no training m, is mouthing like crazy etc that's when your family will begin to take notice.

Poor dog :(
 

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I don't know if there's much else you can do. Other than physically stealing the dog and taking it away, which is illegal, I don't know what else you can try.

Your family doesn't seem to want to take any of your advice and clearly think they know better. It's just unfortunate for the dog, cause when it's older and has no training m, is mouthing like crazy etc that's when your family will begin to take notice.

Poor dog :(
If the new place was liveable, I'd steal him, illegal or no. I'm hoping to be out of here before crap hits the fan, but I just feel so dang sorry for the pup.
 

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i think it's nearly impossible to change how other people (including family) train their dogs.
the only thing you can do is try to make ot better by taking over some of the responsibility.

is there a possibility to bring him with you to work?
He'd probably stay in a bureau or kennel there too, I suppose, but at least someone would be with him, which is important for such a handler focused breed.
In the shelter, in which I help, there are a lot of Shepherd dog mixes and, in comparison to other breeds, all of them do especially bad when they're alone too long. they get depressed and a bit weird when they don't have regular contact to humans and get exercised while having contact to a human.
One of them got imidiatly more happy, when the director took her with her in her bureau and let her lay leashed in her basket behind the reception desk. it needed a few days, so she'd not bark every time someone came in, but now she's an awesome bureau dog.
perhaps you could bring him outside and do a bit of leash training with him during your break?
 

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i think it's nearly impossible to change how other people (including family) train their dogs.
the only thing you can do is try to make ot better by taking over some of the responsibility.

is there a possibility to bring him with you to work?
He'd probably stay in a bureau or kennel there too, I suppose, but at least someone would be with him, which is important for such a handler focused breed.
In the shelter, in which I help, there are a lot of Shepherd dog mixes and, in comparison to other breeds, all of them do especially bad when they're alone too long. they get depressed and a bit weird when they don't have regular contact to humans and get exercised while having contact to a human.
One of them got imidiatly more happy, when the director took her with her in her bureau and let her lay leashed in her basket behind the reception desk. it needed a few days, so she'd not bark every time someone came in, but now she's an awesome bureau dog.
perhaps you could bring him outside and do a bit of leash training with him during your break?
No. I work in a warehouse. Not possible to have an animal.
 
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