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I noticed Hank marking and his urine was bright red. I freaked out got the key to the car put him in it and started heading to the vet. Then I realised it's freaking Sunday... Every place within 50 miles of me is closed on Sunday. I did see one place and have called a couple times with no answer. I turned the car around and came home. Hank got out of the car, I followed him around because he's in mark everywhere mode now that my lil Roxy is in heat. He lifted his leg and at first I was pretty relieved it didn't seem like there was blood in his urine until near the end of the stream then it started to redden.

Is there anything I can do for my poor baby until I can get him into the vet tomorrow at 7a.m.? He doesn't seem to be acting any different, his appetite hasn't faltered. In fact this morning he was the first one to finish his food which normally doesn't happen. I'm worried sick now.

I have been giving him 75mg of benadryl nightly for almost a month now. It seems to help him with first one dog, now our dog, in heat and his anxious behavior. We've also been battling ear goopiness that has seemed to returned in the last 2 weeks despite the benedryl. Think maybe the benadryl has anything to do with it?

I'm planning on changing his diet to TOTW Salmon seems a lot of folks feed that to their pups with allergy issues. I'm wondering maybe I should get him tested for allergies cause I don't want the ear thing to be a problem. How much does that cost? Is it something vets normally do or is it some specialist I have to go to to what?

Also last time we were leaving the vet I've been taking Hank to, I mentioned how it seems like we always see a dif vet when we go. My wife mentioned that Canyon Crossroads Vet Hospital in Tijeras, NM is a place where new vets filter through as some requirement to becoming a vet or something like that. I'm not 100% sure what exactly she said(I was driving at the time and tend to get sort of tunnel visioned). Does that sound like a real thing? In which case should I be looking for a diff vet that doesn't have a whole bunch of wet behind the ears veterinarians? Now that I'm getting older I'm losing faith in the younger folks lol. I feel like they couldn't possibly have the knowledge and experience required for me to trust them with the lives of my babies. IS that unfounded? My wife says it might be good so that everything they learned is more up to date and fresh in their minds. I dunno. Advice, helps, suggestions Please!!

Also: I've never even heard of pet insurance until maybe a couple weeks ago. Does anyone have experiences with pet insurance? My Hank is 3yo and Roxy is 10 months is Hank to old to start? About how much does it run? Any info would be appreciated.
 

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The only thing I can think of is a urinary tract infection. My male basset has had a few, but he had trouble peeing. Maybe the beginning of one.

Raw is great for dogs with allergies. My lab/pointer had near constant ear infections til I switched to raw. The vets never tried to find out what the cause was, just kept giving us ear drops that would clear it up. Then come back once we stopped the drops.

I personally like sticking to one or two vets rather than seeing different ones all the time. I want to feel comfortable with my vet, so I need to get to know them. It's all about what you are comfortable with. I have both a traditional vet and a homeopathic vet at different clinics. I use one vet at each place. They both have their place.

I've been looking into insurance for my dane. You can get it at any age(I think) but the older the pet the more it will cost. Different companies cover different things with different deductibles and pay out rates. Also most will not cover preexisting conditions. So it's better to get it sooner than later. Make sure to read the contract. All this is making my brain hurt.
 
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Ya we've been managing his ears not really "treating" them. I use the wash and the drops for 2 weeks and cultured and they said infections were gone. But now two weeks later it seems back again.

I'd like to stick with one vet but they seem to never be around long enough for me to even recognize them. It's uncomfortable for me. I don't think my dogs care one way or the other. On another forum it was suggested that the clinic might have a high turnover rate. If that's the case maybe I should be looking somewhere else.

I used to take my pups to this old man that ran a clinic out of his house but he passed away last year =(
 

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Ya we've been managing his ears not really "treating" them. I use the wash and the drops for 2 weeks and cultured and they said infections were gone. But now two weeks later it seems back again.
That is what would happen with my dog, a couple weeks after stopping the drops it'd be back. After switching almost no problem. Sometimes they do get yeasty, mostly when he is fed too much junk or when he's stressed. Fireworks are the biggest thing. Now I clean his ears with a mix I made up, just a couple drops when needed. It's lavender, tea tree and grapefruit seed extract mixed with water. Do the vets know what is causing the infection?

I'd probably switch vets, I want to trust and feel comfortable with them. But if you are fine with it and it's been working then stay with them.
 

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I'd guess either kidney stones, or bladder stones, both can cause bloody urine. If it's either of those, once it's treated, they'll most likely want to put him on a prescription diet in order to prevent him from forming them again.

Food allergies can cause ear problems, and an elimination diet can help determine what it is he's allergic to. Protein and grain are the usual culprits, but unfortunately it can also be any other ingredient in the food. I'd switch to a limited ingredient food that is grain free and has a protein that he's never had before, Natural Balance is a good brand for that, and feed him that for a month to 6 weeks, make sure any treats that you give match the food. See if that clears up his ear problems. I do not know how much it cost to get allergy testing done.

I'd not use Benedryl for anxiety, all it does is cause sleepiness and helps with allergic reactions. If you feel he needs medication for anxiety issues then talk to your vet about a prescription for it. Do NOT let them prescribe ACE as it can actually make anxiety worse, it'd be better to continue to use Benedryl then Ace... Acepromazine | Fearful Dogs

If where you go is a teaching veterinary hospital then your dog is probably getting very up to date care, and the new vets should be under the tutelage of highly experienced vets. I used to go to a human version of one and the care I got there was excellent.
 

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The benadryl isn't for anxiety as normally he's a pretty solid dog. We were told by the vet that it might help with the heavy panting whining etc from sniffing the female hormones that were in the air. I don't know how else to put it lol. He was also basically taking it to see if it helped with the ear issue which, I don't believe it has.
 

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The benadryl isn't for anxiety as normally he's a pretty solid dog. We were told by the vet that it might help with the heavy panting whining etc from sniffing the female hormones that were in the air. I don't know how else to put it lol. He was also basically taking it to see if it helped with the ear issue which, I don't believe it has.

Sounds like your vet wanted to try the medicine with the least amount of side effects first, which isn't a bad thing:)

Zody was taking Benedryl for his allergies but it only helps when they are very mild, and it did nothing to help with his stress during bad weather doesn't even make him sleepy.
 

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I love my pet insurance, I have VPI which some say is a no go but covers hip and elbow dysplasia in purebreds when most don't. I had Ensure when it was just my cat but never had anything for it to cover with him, now with Trucker I have VPI for him and Galileo. It runs me about $350 annually with a $100 deductible (Wellness Coverage) for Trucker and $200 annually for Galileo with a $100 deductible (Wellness Coverage).

This is what my parents had for our families toy poodle when she developed Cushing's Disease and they covered her medications. I suggest doing your research and finding the pet insurance that works best for you. A lot give multi-pet discounts (I get 10% off per pet)

BTW I hope your baby is doing well now.
 

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I've been looking into insurance for my dane. You can get it at any age(I think) but the older the pet the more it will cost. Different companies cover different things with different deductibles and pay out rates. Also most will not cover preexisting conditions. So it's better to get it sooner than later. Make sure to read the contract. All this is making my brain hurt.
Some pet insurances do have age cut off normally 10 years old.
 

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only thing is there are stand down periods and if they have suffered from anything prior you not covered. How is hank and his urine now?
 
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Sorry been a couple days since I've posted. I just recently started working a new job and have been in training. I wasn't happy with the results of the first vet visit and wanted a second opinion. I am shamelessly going to copy and paste two posts from another forum where I also frequent that I posted updates from both vet visits.

This was posted on 11/30/2015; Ok so we have to wait til at least tomorrow for the urinalysis results. His yeast infections have returned in both ears after only 2 weeks. We are upping the benadryl to 2x a day instead of once and daily cleaning and ear drops for the next 10 days. $200 later and I'm still worried about my boy. He seems to be acting, eating, drinking and playing like normal. I'm just a worry wort I guess.

We showed up at the vets at 7:15, They open at 7. Apparently though the Dr.s don't get there until 8. He enjoys the vet though. I always make sure and sit near the entrance so he gets to politely greet everyone that comes in. He especially loves meeting new kitties.

12/01/2015 ; Well, they called the wife they said there were crystals in his urine. They want to do an ultrasound to check his kidneys and bladder. She said they wanted to get him on a diet that changes the balance of his urine? Apparently they are going to call back in the morning...

12/02/2015; Ok so talked with the vet. She say they are cystine crystals in the urine and there may be stones in the kidney or liver. She recommends having an ultrasound done for one and a kidney panel for two. She wanted to put him on an antibiotic even though she said there was no bacteria in his UA. She also said she thinks that neutering my Hank will help and that I should put him on a low protein diet of prescription only food that will also change the ph of his urine. She didn't even mention that it could be a hereditary disease, Cystinuria (thanks google).

I'm getting a second opinion at another vet tomorrow morning before I have to go to work.

And the update from today ; Ok got a second opinion. For sure it's cystine crystals. The vet said there isn't a way to test for cystinuria but that they(the crystals) are rare to have(without the disease) and there is prob a good bet he has it. She said that neutering wouldn't affect it one way or the other, that it was more of a preventative measure so as to not breed pups that could have the disease or be carriers of the gene.

I guess the next step is to have an x ray and/or ultrasound done to see if there is a presence of stones in the bladder or kidneys. Not all stones can be seen in either one or the other and sometimes both.

Both vets said basically that there are two ways people try and manage the disease, diet and medication. Hills U/D is an ultra low protein diet that also alkalinizes the urine. But there is mixed information whether this actually works or not to prevent stones from forming and it's also $75 for a 27.5lb bag. Also apparently it can also cause other types of stones to form that only form in alkalinized urine. There is also some debate as to whether an ultra low protein diet is even healthy for large breed dogs. The other option is something called Thiola but is apparently very expensive for large breed dogs and can have adverse side effects. The vet said she was going to research the data a little more and let me know her findings. I found an article that talk about this subject a little more in case anyone wants to read more about this Canine Cystinuria Treatment

One step forward two steps back.
 

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I am sorry to hear about Hank but glad you have an answer so you can help to manage his symptoms.
 

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Well, Hank is having a very hard time passing urine and is refusing kibble. I've managed to get him to eat a pizza crust, a little ham, and some pieces of hotdog but not much. He is scheduled for an ultrasound on wednesday.

He broke a window trying to get outside to get my girl Roxy. He has cuts under his nails going into the pads of his paws from pawing the glass after he broke it with his face. He's broken that window once before about 2 weeks ago. This time he destroyed my door before doing it again.

I know I'm really new here and you all don't know me from Adam but my wife and I have been going through a very rough patch financially. Everytime we seem we are going to be ok, something happens. Like Hank getting diagnosed with cystinuria... Destroying our house including demolishing windows and doors to impregnate our 11 month old female in her first heat... among other things, like our main water line breaking under the house and leaking a $1500 water bill that we haven't been able to pay for a few months now.

Anyways, long story short I've set up a gofundme account in hopes that people would be kind enough to help us pay our medical bills for our "children". My wife and I can't have children so our dogs are our fur babies. Any little bit helps and I go into more detail in the gofundme description and also there are links there to posts I've made chronicling some of our troubles we've faced recently.
 

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I cleaned Hank's paws with peroxide and then put neosporin and some of my wife's socks on him to keep him from licking his paws. He's in his "don't look at me, don't talk to me spot" now. He's not very happy with me but I'm worried sick about him. He's limping around and won't get one the couches or his chair because it puts pressure on his nails which opens the cuts he has more.
 

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Well, Hank is having a very hard time passing urine and is refusing kibble. I've managed to get him to eat a pizza crust, a little ham, and some pieces of hotdog but not much. He is scheduled for an ultrasound on wednesday.

He broke a window trying to get outside to get my girl Roxy. He has cuts under his nails going into the pads of his paws from pawing the glass after he broke it with his face. He's broken that window once before about 2 weeks ago. This time he destroyed my door before doing it again.

I know I'm really new here and you all don't know me from Adam but my wife and I have been going through a very rough patch financially. Everytime we seem we are going to be ok, something happens. Like Hank getting diagnosed with cystinuria... Destroying our house including demolishing windows and doors to impregnate our 11 month old female in her first heat... among other things, like our main water line breaking under the house and leaking a $1500 water bill that we haven't been able to pay for a few months now.

Anyways, long story short I've set up a gofundme account in hopes that people would be kind enough to help us pay our medical bills for our "children". My wife and I can't have children so our dogs are our fur babies. Any little bit helps and I go into more detail in the gofundme description and also there are links there to posts I've made chronicling some of our troubles we've faced recently.
Im not surprised he has trouble passing urine because crystals are more painful then a UTI. you could try a cranberry supplement to try help, can you get urinaid there? that did help Jessie for ages and could aid him to pee also apple cider vinegar may or may not help but id try cranberry supplement first.
 

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Here is a detailed article on preventing and treating struvite crystals in dogs:

Canine Kidney Stone and Bladder Stone Prevention - Whole Dog Journal Article

It is quite possible that this issue started with a UTI, and @crazy's suggestion is a good one. So, I would try cranberry capsules, probiotics and vitamin C (if he were my precious mastiff). D-Mannose is a supplement often used to help with UTI infection.

Anyway, I hope you take the time to read the above article.
 

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Vitamin c and cranberry very good for dogs urine and crystals but so is D mannose , and cranberry. Id try these first before prescription diet tbh if possible
Benefits of Vitamin C to Your Dog - Whole Dog Journal Article

Vitamin C for Dogs
Vitamin C and Calcium Oxalate Stones | Daily Vet | petMD

Jessie once had crystals , cystitis and urine infections it was a battle with the vet we registered her with when got her till found current vet even then he ran out of ideas eventually so i was researching on google ways to help Jessie
 

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Ok, so we saw another Vet at Vista Larga today and she said that Hank had an infection in his bladder and that his prostate was swollen causing it to be difficult to urinate. She gave us an rx for Cephalexin 500mg 2x daily and she gave us Chlorhexidine Solution to soak his paw paws. We still are going in on Wed. for the ultrasound to see about stones or not. Hoping for the best! This vet says if we see improvement in his urination by then, then there is a good chance it's not a stone that is blocking his urethra.

Thanks for the help everyone. We appreciate the concern and all the advice. At this point we are willing to try anything to help our boy feel better.
 

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oh poor thing and you! id def get cranberry capsules/powder to promote healthy bladder and id get some kefir if poss whilst on this Cephalexin which btw Jessie had multiple times before. i sure hope it helps him. gosh prostate too? what a nightmare you are going through!
 

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Ironically just a couple months ago, we had a mastiff come into the clinic for cystine stones. He had one lodged into his urethra. Luckily we were able to flush it back into the bladder, and then do a cystotomy, which is a procedure where the vet surgically opens the bladder and removes the stones.

Glad you are getting it investigated further. A doctor that is familiar with reading ultrasound should be able to identify stones, but they are more definitely diagnosed via X-ray because they show up clear as day. Sometimes small stones and crystals are hard to distinguish on ultrasound. If you can only do one or the other, I'd do an x-ray.
 
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