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Hi Everyone

I'm so sorry that i've been inactive for so long on here! Between endometriosis excision surgery in February following umbilical hametoma complication which was agony, then recovering from those going to uk for 5 weeks, then sorting out other health issues esp winter ones and winter never helped!

Then Jessie getting colitis then me fixing that and then me going through venlafaxine withdrawal hell and back very recently to go on a new anti depressant life has been busy and not easy. I hope i make sense here as i'm still going through venlafaxine withdrawal (only just started new med with half dose Monday Tuesday and today full dose)

So with all that going on i haven't had time till recently to work on training Jessie and we have come across a oldish problem which had i thought improved but seems not but thanks to mum and dad identifying the problem as being frustrated on the leash i have the answer to what is wrong.

So i was going through the stickies for barrier frustration but unsure what videos to specifically watch. So here goes the problem

Jessie loves walks, lets me put the harness and lead on her but as soon as see another dog from a distance (sometimes a cat) she will constantly pull and bark non stop, so can someone please let me know what video in the sticky would be best for her? it can continue once she says hello at times but mostly i think she is fine once says hello or once off the lead having a run with the dog she is fine!

Other barrier frustration she has is this dog on the street with owners who need to take that dog to obedience classes and work on its recall! it runs around the street winding up all the dogs getting them barking including Jessie who is the most relaxed dog at home and chilled out. She just wont stop the barking. May i say with these behaviors my immediate family are not impressed with it at all especially given she has been to training classes since first got her. I'm not impressed either but this behavior yesterday and its not a excuse alerted the dogs owner to it running off and thankfully this time they tried getting it back.

Now the other issue that's done and doing my head in all the time at my parents is when it is dinner time(5/6pm) charlie and ozzy are fed acana light and fit for good reason and im aware Jessie feels left out and jealous as it has chicken and veg in it which she cant have at all but even if i feed her first she barks and barks non stop when i feed charlie and ozzy even though she has been fed the appropriate amount of food and been fed. How can i stop this please? i hate it.

Otherwise she is the best nurse, companion, little dog and im so proud of how she has turned out she is just amazing. I just need some guidance/advice/help/pointing in the right direction to help her and yes training with be daily from now on.

Now im going to enrol her for training classes id like to go back to CGC but if i need to do rally o or other obedience training i will do it to help her. Her recall is great, need to work on her down stay a bit from a distance but otherwise all good.
 

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Anyone got any helpful ideas etc to help me to help jessie over come these issues please?
 

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The best advice I can give is to work on a heavily rewarded "leave it". She sees the dog, you tell her 'leave it' and then you turn and walk in the other direction giving looooots of treats as a reward.

As time goes on, close the distance, but any reaction from her and you're out of there. If she wants to meet, she has to do so politely, but if she's nervous/afraid she doesn't have to stay either.

This is just something I've begun with my dog, so I can't totally testify to the effectiveness, but it seems logical and it's helped a little bit. :)
 

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That is good advice. On the other hand, you don't want to have to tell your dog to leave it. You want your dog's default response to be remaining calm and not barking and pulling. Below is a pretty good video on conditioning against reactivity.

Stop Barking on a Walk
 

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What about teaching a "Watch me". She can't bark at the other dogs if she is busy watching you. Obviously this will have to start in a very non-distracting environment, and then massive distance from other dogs.

This might make me sound like a crazy person, but I'm not a big fan of letting my dogs greet other dogs on leash, because either mine or theirs always get wound up, and the leashes get tangled, ugh disaster. I allow greetings if both dogs can sit calmly (but you can guess how often that happens...).
 

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This might make me sound like a crazy person, but I'm not a big fan of letting my dogs greet other dogs on leash, because either mine or theirs always get wound up, and the leashes get tangled, ugh disaster. I allow greetings if both dogs can sit calmly (but you can guess how often that happens...).
Not crazy. I'm not big on dog interactions in an uncontrolled environment either... especially if there's a freaking retractable leash involved. I don't always know how a dog I'm walking might react, and I definitely don't know jack about any random strangers' dogs. With clients, it's a safety precaution and a work rule. With personal animals, it's just preference.

Too many people don't use common sense... walking dogs off-leash or all the way at the end of a retractable, letting them run up to you. "Oh, he's friendly, don't worry!" Your dog may be friendly, but that doesn't mean I want him jumping on me or running up to the animal I'm walking. One of my previous clients (when I lived in a different state) is an extremely DA shepherd mix... I didn't need an idiot allowing their dog to run up to us (hence why I walked him during a time when nobody was generally out).
 

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All helpful suggestions!

The best advice I can give is to work on a heavily rewarded "leave it". She sees the dog, you tell her 'leave it' and then you turn and walk in the other direction giving looooots of treats as a reward.

As time goes on, close the distance, but any reaction from her and you're out of there. If she wants to meet, she has to do so politely, but if she's nervous/afraid she doesn't have to stay either.

This is just something I've begun with my dog, so I can't totally testify to the effectiveness, but it seems logical and it's helped a little bit. :)
I dont mind working on that a bit more or that actually because there are a few things she needs to learn to leave on walks. However i do gently pull her back to try get her to move away with me and tell her leave it and Jessie no but she wouldnt stop! with her half australian terrier heritage she is more prone to this and she also has the stubborn part of the shih tzu in her very intresting combo!

That is good advice. On the other hand, you don't want to have to tell your dog to leave it. You want your dog's default response to be remaining calm and not barking and pulling. Below is a pretty good video on conditioning against reactivity.

Stop Barking on a Walk
Oh thanks a million for that video! it is so so helpful and clear to me! (thats someone with aspergers and intellectual disability and i didn;t realise i still had the intellectual disability!)

i am so going to try all that tommorow and do it every day. She loves her bunny bits and views them as high quality treats so will try with those as she cant have many treats. If that dont work will dehydrate some tripe for treats which she would never ever turn down!

What about teaching a "Watch me". She can't bark at the other dogs if she is busy watching you. Obviously this will have to start in a very non-distracting environment, and then massive distance from other dogs.

This might make me sound like a crazy person, but I'm not a big fan of letting my dogs greet other dogs on leash, because either mine or theirs always get wound up, and the leashes get tangled, ugh disaster. I allow greetings if both dogs can sit calmly (but you can guess how often that happens...).
Now thats one thing i had forgot about so i will be doing that several times a day for few min a time at home first, then out on the street where i live and build it up again. One time after we went to the beach with her this golden lab rushed around the corner and lunged toward her Jessie was shocked and snapped at him which was more then fair enough. She was standing up for herself saying hey please use your manners im a little dog and your massive compared to me.

I know you may not be crazy about dogs greeting each other on leash but this is important for Jessie to do as this is a part of her CGC exam she failed with a friendly dog and she knew this dog seen it around the training club had been fine with it before in the past then growled and barked at it. beautiful elderly flat coated retriever. So Jessie really needs to learn more with big dogs not to feel a freight or whatever she feels and she doesn't get much time to socialise with other dogs which i'm working on hard. For example every few months she will go day care, once a month small dog socials, take her to beaches when weather warms up, walk her to more dog parks. Unless i work hard on this and go back to CGC we cant pass the foundation exam and no point doing it anytime soon.

Not crazy. I'm not big on dog interactions in an uncontrolled environment either... especially if there's a freaking retractable leash involved. I don't always know how a dog I'm walking might react, and I definitely don't know jack about any random strangers' dogs. With clients, it's a safety precaution and a work rule. With personal animals, it's just preference.

Too many people don't use common sense... walking dogs off-leash or all the way at the end of a retractable, letting them run up to you. "Oh, he's friendly, don't worry!" Your dog may be friendly, but that doesn't mean I want him jumping on me or running up to the animal I'm walking. One of my previous clients (when I lived in a different state) is an extremely DA shepherd mix... I didn't need an idiot allowing their dog to run up to us (hence why I walked him during a time when nobody was generally out).
I tried to do a video of Jessie barking at parents at dinner time and will upload it , it isnt clear as i forgot to turn garage light on and kitchen light on and with Jessie being dark color and its bit blurred but you can sure hear her. will get a better video soon.
 

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Also one other area i noticed i need to work on with Jessie asap is leaving her tied to the fence for 5 mins to pass the CGC, She is ok for 2 mins just moans a little but then barks non stop.So going to buy the tie outs for home but im not sure where to insert them in my garden? Happy to look for pics of garden to show you all to get suggestions.

Also going to get parents to watch that video so they can work on ozzy as he is way worse then Jessie and really really reactive nervous and has got into physical fights with dogs. so it could help dad train ozzy?
 

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Here is a mild version(normally she bark as soon as open garage door to get labradors food and wont stop even when i tell her she gets fed in a minute and to wait will still go on at times) not sure whats going on as i can get the dry food for the labs from the garage as soon open door jumping and barking, running at same time, then ive tried feeding her before them but soon as she see me giving them the labs the dry food she barks like she angry.

So just want to get overall picture from this forum of what could be going on! its very frustrating and at home even with charlie here she is calm as doesnt do that. yet at parents.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgdZNdFGydU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SejXVVI1IE4
 

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So today met at a cafe where could sit outdoors to meet a friend and his dog sky. Well this mixed breed looking dog all a sudden came to the cafe to sit outside as well and Jessie oh my bark and pulling. I untied her got her lead in a no nonsense voice said lets go and walked her to the gate then tried walking around, when she started up again i said lets go moving again in the opposite direction and clicked the clicker each time. EVENTUALLY i was able to sit back down to enjoy my chocolate pecan brownie! my friend was asking if she stills needs training i was saying what training she still needs when that happened.

I also am very upset and dissapointed at the obedience club we been going to because as long as we gone there and made friends term 1 and 4 always a Tuesday evening now its permanently a Monday evening! who wants to go on Monday evenings after working long hours( i dont work long hours or much but in general) especially all four terms?

I can no longer go to that obedience club because i have 2 important commitments on Mondays that i alternate with one being autism support group. I dont recall seeing any announcements on their Facebook page or anything and no one told me till i posted the question and i found out at 1am! Now to find an obedience club that does CGC that isn't too far to go to! that's on Tuesdays but oh it sucks. Jess really needs cgc training.

Going to see if i can get better video of Jess within next few days at my parents doing all that barking and going mad
 

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what does anyone make of the videos please?
 
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