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First I apologise if this is in the wrong place but seemed to be the best description.

So a bit of background first. I have 2 JRTs - Nelson is 3 1/2 and Poppy is 3.

Poppy is expecting her first litter on 16th of this month. Her and Nelson have been hip and eye tested, our vet has been involved since day 1 and all the puppies (5-6 according to her x-Ray) have experienced homes within my close family ready and waiting.

My family have bred large breeds for around 30 years, mostly assistance and police dogs so breeding is not something new to me and I have a lot of experience around. This is however the first time we have had both Mum and Dad raised together purely as pets, we always used studs.

I got both dogs within a few months of each other and they have been inseparable since day one. Nelson has had a few nights at the vets due to his own sheer clumsiness and the vets have always asked for Poppy to stay to keep him calm.

I have everything ready for the pups arrival - penned in whelping box, blankets, milk, food etc. I work from home and my OH has 2weeks off just in case. Poppy has just started sleeping in the box, closely followed by Nelson every time without fail.

So yesterday as recommended by the vet Nelson has gone to stay with my Father in law just in case he reacts badly to the pups or worries Poppy whilst whelping. Since he left Poppy has been lying by the front door crying and is refusing to eat. Managed to get her to take a mouthful of chicken earlier but that has been it. Nelson is in the same state although is apparently being much more vocal.

So the question really is has anyone else been through similar and would you recommend reuniting them or persist with keeping them apart until the pups are born?

I don't want to risk Nelson harming the pups but don't want Poppy distressed and starving herself either.
 

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@LoveMyFosters has been around plenty of pregnant bitches and has had very successful whelpings. I'm she will be of good use here!
 

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Thank you. Any advice will be great. I can cope with the whining but not the hunger strike!
 

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Thank you for tagging me here, shandula.

Hi, JRTmum!

First off, have these two ever been separated at any time in the past? How did they handle that, did they calm down after awhile or no?

What I'm hoping is once the pups are born she will forget about her need for your other dog, however on the other hand keeping him away could actually make things worse, just trying to figure out how she's going to do.
 

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Thank you for replying. They've never really been separated before for more than half an hour hour so. They don't always sleep next to each other or be side by side, but have to know exactly where the other is or the crying starts.

So as an update Poppy hasn't moved all night. The whining is now intermittent. I even offered her a chunk of fresh beef - just the prospect normally sends them bananas - but nothing.
 

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Thank you for replying. They've never really been separated before for more than half an hour hour so. They don't always sleep next to each other or be side by side, but have to know exactly where the other is or the crying starts.

So as an update Poppy hasn't moved all night. The whining is now intermittent. I even offered her a chunk of fresh beef - just the prospect normally sends them bananas - but nothing.
I must tell you, even though I'm sure you already know that the level of their attachment isn't at all good. After the pups have left I really suggest working on getting the two so they can be away from each other without going nuts.

That's a good sign. I would just keep them apart and see how she does for now. If she's a good mom, she will forget about her need for your other dog and worry about her pups. Is this her first litter?
 

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It is her first litter. Hopefully she'll be ok with the pups. From what I've read Jacks are normally good mums.

Still no change in her mood. Even had my niece and nephew come round to try and distract her. They dote on her and she normally loves the attention but didn't bat an eyelid.

I'm going to get the vet to check her over tomorrow. Really getting concerned about her getting dehydrated, especially as she could go into labour at anytime.

As for Nelson he is eating in between crying and is a lot better than he was yesterday.
 

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It is her first litter. Hopefully she'll be ok with the pups. From what I've read Jacks are normally good mums.

Still no change in her mood. Even had my niece and nephew come round to try and distract her. They dote on her and she normally loves the attention but didn't bat an eyelid.

I'm going to get the vet to check her over tomorrow. Really getting concerned about her getting dehydrated, especially as she could go into labour at anytime.

As for Nelson he is eating in between crying and is a lot better than he was yesterday.
I can fully understand your concern. Do what's best for your dog and her soon to be pups. If you have to, force fluids on her.
 

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So just got back from the vet and he said to bring my boy home. As Poppy is not going to be left alone by us any risk will be eliminated in seconds.

Picked him up on the way back. Poppy looks more relieved than happy. She did give him an initial telling off - assume for abandoning her - but they're back to normal already. Poppy did her subtle pushing her bowl round the kitchen trick then scoffed down a handful of beef.

They're now both happily sleeping in the pen. Nelson on the whelping box and Poppy on top of him, just in case he tries to leave again.

Back to the countdown again now. 5 days until her due date....
 

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Poppy and Nelson are both very settled after their "ordeal"

Really keeping my fingers crossed that everything goes smoothly and Nelson will be a good Dad.

The puppies seem to be having a party tonight. There's an awful lot of wriggling going on in Poppy's tummy!

Doesn't seem to be bothering her too much, just a shuffle and a grumble every now and then. Everyone is spotless now though. She must have cleaned us all 3 or 4 times - Nelson got growled at when he tried to move before she had finished with him.

Not long now!
 

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Poppy is due tomorrow. She's started to slow down now but has played with Nelson a few times - he keeps bringing her rope toys and tennis balls but is giving her space.

As I write this she has disappeared into her whelping box and is digging away.

Fingers crossed its not much longer. She looks so uncomfortable!
 

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Still no puppies :(

Poppy has given up on the whelping box and is back on the sofa with me and Nelson - and a variety of teddies she has decided to take everywhere with her and keeps putting them on top of Nelson. She has started lactating so we are getting closer. Her temperature dropped this morning but is right back up to normal again now.

Took her 3 attempts to roll from her side onto her belly to stand up earlier. She looks like she's going to pop and is getting bigger every day.

We have an appointment at the vets on Monday to check on everything as we're now on day 64. He did say that Jacks can often go to 69/70 days. Really don't think we can wait another week!
 
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