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Old 06-03-2013, 08:31 PM
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Yikes, what an evening (meltdown)!

The weekend overall went really well, even in spite of the thumb injury Cobber gave me during the puppy class on Saturday. We went over to a friend's last night to meet her two dogs, and he played and played with the dogs and humans for a couple hours. As a result, he slept well last night and a lot of today. I had to leave him for about 3 hours while I went to the dentist, and he was perfect in his crate the entire time.

But this evening, it was like the rabid alligator with fur was back. He'd just peed and pooped outside, so I put him in his crate because I wanted to eat my dinner. Not ten minutes later, he peed all over inside the crate. So we went out to the yard pen while I cleaned everything up. He was running all over the yard like a spaz, but he finally peed and pooped again. Back inside, I played with him awhile longer till he destroyed a cat toy. Then I picked him up to put in his crate, and he just went ballistic growling, snapping. Because this wasn't my first time, he didn't actually connect with my skin at all. But he was angry (at least it seemed like he was). Even when I put him down to take off his leash, he kept up the growling and snapping. I confess that I tried to get him to stop first, so I wasn't putting him in the crate directly connected with the meltdown behavior, but he wasn't having anything to do with calming down. I don't know which of us is more exhausted.

I guess my quandry is -- he obviously needs to use up energy and gets tired of slow games and mental games. Sometimes he just wants to burn off steam. But that always seems to lead to overhyperness, which leads to snapping and growling. The other dogs last night were very good with him and he got to let off steam while still behaving. But I don't have so much luck.

I'm not sure I have a question... I just feel like we did well most of the weekend then had some major backslides today and tonight.
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He got to sleep in all night and most of the day. Now all that energy is back!!! That's puppy hood! Try to keep working him out and letting him release that energy. Does he like fetch? Swimming? Can you schedule more play dates?

Puppyhood is hard work! LoL

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Old 06-03-2013, 08:49 PM
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You ain't just whistlin' dixie

He goes back to puppy daycare tomorrow - that will wear him out. I suspect he will like swimming, but I don't have anywhere I'm able to take him yet. Later this summer, I have a trip planned to my aunt's cabin where there are a couple ponds. All the family dogs have loved going there, so I'm hoping he does, too.

I need to find more places locally I can take him, just to do something different.

I'm also going to try the bitter apples on my hands suggestion from the other thread. I bought some bottle of bitter apple but he doesn't seem bothered by it. I will try the specific brand you mentioned in case it's stronger or something. I also like the idea of rubbing my hands with cold butter to promote licking vs. biting.
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You ain't just whistlin' dixie

He goes back to puppy daycare tomorrow - that will wear him out. I suspect he will like swimming, but I don't have anywhere I'm able to take him yet. Later this summer, I have a trip planned to my aunt's cabin where there are a couple ponds. All the family dogs have loved going there, so I'm hoping he does, too.

I need to find more places locally I can take him, just to do something different.

I'm also going to try the bitter apples on my hands suggestion from the other thread. I bought some bottle of bitter apple but he doesn't seem bothered by it. I will try the specific brand you mentioned in case it's stronger or something. I also like the idea of rubbing my hands with cold butter to promote licking vs. biting.
Try whatever it takes. Sometimes it takes a combination of things. It will get better though. I promise.
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Is Cobber a yorkie or what? Hard to tell in puppies as there are a fwe similar looking breeds
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IIRC, Cobber is an Aussie terrier (or maybe some kind of supercute AT mix?).

One suggestions I had was, instead of picking him up when he is crazy, can you lure him into his crate with really high value treats? When Calypso was a puppy and spazzing out beyond the point of no return (so my usual method of giving easy commands first wouldn't fly), I got in the habit of just tossing a chunk of chicken or turkey dog or whatever into her crate to get her to go in. That way she still saw it as a reward, not punishment, and my hands were safe. Maybe something similar would help you and Cobber?
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Yes, he's an aussie terrier

thanks for the idea of tossing the treat in - I could have done that last night and was too frazzled to even think of it. I will do more of that in the future. We've discovered he loves those really stinky Natural Balance meat rolls, so I need to buy one for occasions like this!
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If you're worried about frustration, what about giving him something he can destroy? We give Quest toilet paper/paper towel tubes/boxes. He gets to shred something up and it breaks down boxes to fit better in the garbage can
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If you're worried about frustration, what about giving him something he can destroy? We give Quest toilet paper/paper towel tubes/boxes. He gets to shred something up and it breaks down boxes to fit better in the garbage can
Love this and I've been doing just that when I think of it. I tend to drink beverages out of standard 16.9-ounce and 20-ounce bottles (diet coke, green tea, etc). When I'm done, I crunch the bottle so it's a little flattened, take the label off and toss it to Cobber. He will maul it, toss it, chew it, but can't actually shred it, and it bounces around and away from him which helps feed the frenzy. I also don't mind if he gets ahold of newspaper or, as you say, paper towel tubes.

His absolute favorite thing to maul that he hasn't been able to destroy (yet) is the cats' crinkle tube. It's so light-weight and bouncy that he can't really do any damage to it, but he loves to jump on it and try to grab it in his mouth and shake it. I have to get a video of this one evening and post it here, it's hysterical to watch since the tube is a good 5 times bigger than he is.
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Love this and I've been doing just that when I think of it. I tend to drink beverages out of standard 16.9-ounce and 20-ounce bottles (diet coke, green tea, etc). When I'm done, I crunch the bottle so it's a little flattened, take the label off and toss it to Cobber.
Make sure you take off the little ring right below the lid and the lid. If he pops those off and swallows them he could choke or cause a blockage.
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