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Old 12-03-2014, 05:47 AM
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I think he'll be able to handle it just fine if he's only left for four hours or so. My opinion is that allowing them to potty in the house (basically the situation set up with the pads an x pen) should only be used if the alternative is leaving him in the crate too long. At least, until he's house trained. I don't see an issue with giving him space after that point, but for the sake of house training I think that crating is your best bet. Plus, I think that being trained to rest quietly in a crate for relatively long periods of time is a skill dogs should have if at all possible. It can come in handy in a variety of situations, though I recognize that not everyone has the need.
I agree ^^^^ If the puppy were going to be left for more than 5 or so hours at a time, an indoor potty option would be necessary (in my opinion). But, if he'll be 12 weeks and let out for a potty break after about 4 hours, he should be fine in a crate. As mentioned, the ability to be comfortable in a crate is a great skill to teach.

Most dogs will sleep when left alone, so even if he has an entire room or expen, odds are he won't move around very much.

Make sure you share pictures when you get him.
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:40 AM
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The other problem with something like the artificial grass is that it is something that may be hard to break, and they may associate with a bath mat or rug. And depending on the dog breed, they may eventually outgrow the grass, and then what.

Honestly, for 4 hour recriminates the crate, to me, would be ideal.
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Old 12-03-2014, 01:42 PM
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What is the longest he will have to be home alone at that age? At 10-11 weeks, we were crating for 3 hours between breaks and I think he had one accident in the crate (and it may have been excitement about us getting home). This did require us to adjust our work schedules a bit - my husband went in an hour late and left an hour early, and somebody came home for lunch. By 12 weeks, he was fine in the crate for 4 hours at a time (which mean we just came home for lunch).

I'm really not a fan of puppy pads, because they can make house training more difficult long term. If you're not planning to use them for life (like with a small dog in a high rise apartment or something) I wouldn't use them with a puppy.

I would also not send a dog to daycare before 6 months. They are just too small to fit in with the bigger dogs and they need to sleep a lot. Daycares are just too hectic.
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Thank you all so much for the replies, everyone!
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Alright - bringing this thread back up as I'm getting my pup, Kito, on Friday evening - I'm very very excited!

He will be 10 weeks old when I get him, and 11 weeks when I go back to work. He will be alone for 4 to 5 hour stretches at a time. Is 5 hours too long to be in a crate?
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I think it depends on the puppy. Luckily you have a week between getting him and going back to work to see how good he is at holding his bladder. Some dogs at 11 weeks have no problems with holding it for 5+ hours, some do. I don't see why it would be a problem. In that week you are home with him, play a lot of crate games. Reward for going in the crate, laying down in the crate. Reinforce that the crate is a good place to be. Also when you leave him, leave him with something that is easy to clean up after (I use towels) so that if he does have an accident, he isn't forced to lay in it.

Also, I would love to hear more about this wonderful Kito that you have been working so hard towards getting? What kinda dog? Pictures? You have to know we love puppies here!
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What kind of puppy are you getting? I think that makes a difference as I have found that small breeds do not seem to be able to hold it as long.
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Feed ALL his meals in the crate so he learns crate is a good place to be, and not a place to potty, soon he will see you getting the food bowl and run right to the crate. Makes crate training a lot easier with a pup who initially might freak out. Some pups take right to the crate though. Sam did. I put his in the back of the car and let him sleep in it on the 3 hour drive home with the door open and me petting him, so when I put him in it later to sleep there was never a whine or cry. Never has been.
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I totally have a different take on doggy daycare than everyone else apparently lol. The first day we were gone for a long day we took Nala to day care, she was about 8-9 weeks a the time. Although it totally depends on the place. I checked out a bunch of places before I made my final decision and did make one mistake but it was with Athena and not Nala. This one place was kind of pricey but they let us take a tour, we met all the staff and even the owner came out to meet us. They're SUPER strict about being UTD w/shots so I wasn't as concerned about her getting sick. They actually denied Athena the first day because we had just moved and they wanted her to establish a relationship with a vet in the area first.

They had the dogs split up into sections, one for bigger/rowdier dogs and one for smaller, more calm dogs (although they did allow bigger dogs with the small dogs, just as long as they were super docile). They did an evaluation to see how she would react to the situation before they accepted her also. All the staff were so obsessed with her and the service was great so we decided we'd take the chance.

When we picked her up she seemed like she was in great spirits. They said it took her a while to warm up so they had one staff member on the other side of the gate of the small/calm dogs (there was a small room attached to that area that was separated by a normal house gate). The staff member said she just spent one-on-one time with Nala, slowly introducing her to the other dogs through the gate and playing with her separately. They said eventually she got confident and curious so they allowed her to play with the other dogs and became attached to this one dog. They said the other dog played so well with her and when she got tired they separated her and gave her some room away to enjoy her sleep.

The one lady was carrying her when she brought Nala out, going on and on about how awesome she did and how much fun she had. I have no proof that all that happened but from our first impressions of everyone and from her good spirits I believed them.

The second place we went to was not as good of a situation. They actually separated my girls which I asked them not to do in fear that Nala would feel abandoned. They let Nala stay with the receptionists in the front desk area after they tried leaving her with the other puppies and realized she was not very fond of not having a human around but still, I was very upset they went against my instructions. They put Athena with the other dogs who were very rough; the one staff member even said she just kind of hid away from the other dogs and did not seem comfortable so we ended up never going back there.

The first place actually told us they wouldn't have separated the girls (had Athena been accepted the first day) unless Athena showed aggression towards the other dogs. They agreed with me that the best way to have handled that situation was to let the girls stick together to keep them as comfortable as possible.

They also have indoor swim time on Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays included with daycare if you'd like your dog to participate which I thought was one of the best things about the place. We ended up only needing to take Nala twice but we would not hesitate to take her again if need be. We're actually boarding the girls there next weekend while we go out of town with my parents. It just ended up being a little too pricey for us to afford every week and Jake ended up being able to stop at home and let the girls out and spend a little time with them in between classes.

All in all, if you have a place near you that's anything like the place we found, I'd encourage it. It's all dependent with how comfortable you are. If you have any doubt, I wouldn't do it. But other than that I think the pen/crate is a great idea. I also agree that every puppy is different and it will take a little time to figure out what's best for yours. I would prefer to have had Nala in a pen than a crate but she's an escape artist and chewed my phone charger and tried to licked an outlet once so I don't trust her to be out in the house unsupervised for more than 20-30 minutes yet.

I wish you the best of luck and congrats!
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I totally have a different take on doggy daycare than everyone else apparently lol. The first day we were gone for a long day we took Nala to day care, she was about 8-9 weeks a the time. Although it totally depends on the place. I checked out a bunch of places before I made my final decision and did make one mistake but it was with Athena and not Nala. This one place was kind of pricey but they let us take a tour, we met all the staff and even the owner came out to meet us. They're SUPER strict about being UTD w/shots so I wasn't as concerned about her getting sick. They actually denied Athena the first day because we had just moved and they wanted her to establish a relationship with a vet in the area first.
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but it sounds like you're contradicting yourself here. The place requires them to be completely vaccinated, but there's no way that a 8-9 week old puppy can have all of her vaccinations. If they're letting her in, then one could assume that they also let in other pups that haven't finished their shots either...
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