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Old 04-27-2014, 06:57 AM
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Since you've only had him 8 hours, there is a chance he won't have a bowel movement until the next day (depends on the dog). Some dogs and puppies get stressed about moving to a new home which throws off things like their desire to eat and normal bowel movements.

I assume that who ever you got him from paper trained him. The good news is, you don't have to worry about the transition as much because it won't really be a transition. Your home is an entirely new place for him, meaning that any potty habits he had before are most likely out the window. Just follow the guidelines in the housetraining sticky and he'll soon understand.

Don't wait for him to have an accident in the house. The key to potty training (successfully) is to prevent accidents from happening inside in the first place. Take him out to potty, give him ten minutes or so. If he doesn't go come back in and either crate him or hold him for 5-10 minutes, then go back out until he does go. It might be useful to teach him a potty command. I taught one for pee and another for poop, but you can decide what works best for you as you get to know your puppy.

Keep eyes on him at all times and when you can't crate him. I would suggest tethering him to you with a leash so you don't have to chase a sprinting, peeing puppy.

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Ahh, bright and early mornings with puppies! He had a fuss-free night, I doubt it'll last. Going to try to talk to dad about the crate thing even at least for sleeping overnight, during breakfast.
One thing to mention about the crate is that it gives the pup a safe place to go (once he's used to it). It'll be especially good if yoi do any traveling with him or if guests are over and you don't want the pup out and nipping at guests' ankles haha. It'll be like his own bedroom where he can go to nap or relax if something in the house is too over stimulating for him.

Congrats on a fuss-free night! Where is the pup sleeping now?
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Old 04-27-2014, 08:09 AM
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Dad needs to get over his own bias against crates.
You absolutely can NOT have a 10 week puppy roaming around on carpet and expect to get him house trained.

At least keep him confined to a small room with a hard floor when you cannot be with him.

Puppies will naturally want to pee on carpet as it is absorbent.
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As far as peeing on leaves, I'd encourage that and reward it. You could set up a pile of leaves on the grass where you want him to potty. Reward him for using it, and then you can gradually spread the leaves out and scatter them. This will likely help him make the transition to grass.
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Tell your dad that crates are like "cribs" for puppies. Eventually, all babies are transitioned to a bed when they become toddlers. The puppy can transition to a dog bed, too, in time.
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I got him to agree to a crate at night, but not during the day. Doing my best with the umbilical method otherwise. I'm beginning to worry this puppy has been abused before we got him, but I'm afraid to go into detail as I think the breeder may go to this forum too.
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I got him to agree to a crate at night, but not during the day. Doing my best with the umbilical method otherwise. I'm beginning to worry this puppy has been abused before we got him, but I'm afraid to go into detail as I think the breeder may go to this forum too.
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Might I suggest that you send a PM to Tess about some of these specific concerns you have? Tess is our resident puppy expert, and I'm sure that she could advise you privately.
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If you're going to be using the crate as a potty training tool, I think it's even more important that you use it during the day. Are you planning in being home with this pup full time? I'm assuming you have work or school at some point-or will have to leave the house at SOME point. This is when he needs to know crate is ok not just for sleep time, but as a safe place and where he goes when you can't be there.

It's not cruel to have a puppy in a crate. It's temporary so they don't hurt themselves chewing on inappropriate things and don't ruin your house by soiling it. Similarly to having a baby in a playpen-you would never let them roam free In The house due to the trouble they could get into or they could get hurt. Again-unless dad is the one taking this pup out, doing all the training and cleaning up after him-if you have a crate for him-UTILIZE it.
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Blakeandsam, I don't think you were here for my intro thread so I'll explain for you. I have no real say at all in what methods are used on this puppy, I'm only getting to do all the work and hoping I can pull it off. My dad is fairly totalitarian, and things like putting my foot down will go far more badly for me than having to spend a month or three pottytraining a puppy. It is how it is, and wishful thinking won't change it. He's also heavily into dominance theory, though thank god he's never seen Cesar Milan.

I WANT to do proper crate training but it took literally all day of arguing the benefits ... and the past two months of working at it now and again, to even get him to agree to night time crating. I'm counting my blessings I'm getting this much, honestly.

... And if Tess doesn't mind a PM I'll send one. I am actually fairly concerned for the pup.
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What are your options for leaving the puppy in just one room, preferably without carpet, while you go to school? Also, would your dad be open to having the crate left open and available for the puppy to enter and exit freely in that room? If you leave something soft for the puppy to lie on in the crate, he'd probably find it a comfortable place to rest.
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