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Old 09-05-2012, 01:36 PM
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To spay, or not to spay?

I got a puppy yesterday. She is a lab x cockador (so pretty much lab!) and she is called Hallie. She is lovely

Since having her (the last 24 hours!) I find people like to pass comment (fine when asked, can be annoying when not!) and a few people have said 'Hope you have a litter before you spay her'

Can someone please tell me the pro's and con's? Are the con's mainly because of dog overpopulation?

Is it true that it does the dog a lot of good to have a litter, or is this not really accurate?

She isn't pedigree so doesn't have papers etc, so it wouldn't be to 'breed' her if I did anyway, and what I would do, if having a litter really is best for her, is donate them to dogs for the disabled or a similar charity so they can be trained as a service dog (this is what we will be training Hallie to be, in a fashion)

Thanks (in advance!)
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Absolutely spay her, it is definitely NOT better for her to have a litter. Having puppies is very hard on their bodies and it would be extremely irresponsible to make her do so, and you would not be able to donate pups to an organization as those places are very selective about what they are getting and a mutt bred for more mutts is not what they want.
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PROS of Spaying:
No unwanted litters
No chance of Pyometra, a potentially deadly uterine infection that requires an often very expensive emergency spay to fix
Lessens the chance of mammary gland cancer if you have her spayed before she goes into heat
Less chances of UTIs (from self cleaning)
No need for emergency pyometra surgery, which could run you up to $3000.
No chance of dystocia surgery (also can run you up to $3000)


CONs of spaying:
Chances of having a recessed vulva are higher if they don't go through a heat first
Higher incidence of spay incontinence if spayed at less than 3 months old. If older, no added risk.



I'm sure others can come up with more but to me these are the most important.
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Thanks, Cali.

Thats good to know. For me/us there is no reason or need for us to allow her to have puppies. We wouldn't want to keep any and the reason I would donate them (if I were able to do so) is because I would know they were going to good 'use' as I wouldn't do it for money.

Could I ask though, Why do so many people say they should have a litter before being spayed? Is there any reason?
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Oh, Thank you Holly, must have posted at the same time

Again, good to know. How common/serious is the recessed Vulva? Or is that just if you spay them before they come into season?
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Could I ask though, Why do so many people say they should have a litter before being spayed? Is there any reason?
Simply because they don't know what they're talking about :-) (or it gives them an excuse to have a litter to sell... a bit of a cop out)
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I think, personally, She needs spaying.

As I said, Puppies wouldn't benefit me, my family (and it seems not her either) and I don't want to do it for money.

Will just have to deal with people who think I'm 'wrong' for not allowing her to have puppies!
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Again, good to know. How common/serious is the recessed Vulva? Or is that just if you spay them before they come into season?
It predisposes them to UTIs. There is a surgery to correct it if it's severe.

It's not very common in young dogs but it's just something to keep in mind. I don't think it's common or serious enough to not spay before their first heat, especially since the surgery becomes more difficult to perform the older (and fatter) they get.

Most older dogs, when their anatomy changes as they age, will end up with a recessed vulva eventually.

My friend's dog had a recessed vulva. Had about 5 UTIs in her first year of life. Had the surgery. Hasn't had a UTI in like 3 years now.
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Ok, Thank you

Actually if you look online, pretty much every website you see says to spay them!
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May I add..from your other post...being a service dog and coming into heat or having puppies would distract her from her job...
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