Rough puppy play or something that needs to be stopped?

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Old 07-20-2013, 10:07 PM
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Rough puppy play or something that needs to be stopped?

Two dogs in question.

2 year old Pug who wears a harness instead of a collar during the day own by parents.

5-6 month old Vizsla owned by brother/sister in law.

The play.

Vizsla puppy grabs the Pug by the harness and lifts her up on the air and pretty much body slams her to the ground. If the Pug doesn't have the harness on then the Vizsla will try to do this with the Pug's fur/skin (Pugs don't have a very thick coat so it's pretty much skin). The Vizsla will continue to do this until the Pug has enough and then it's an all out dog fight that does get split up.

My parents (well just my mother) says this isn't a good type of play and doesn't like the puppy doing this to her dog. My brother/sister in law along with my father just chalk this up to that the Vizsla is still a puppy and this is how puppy's are.

Last time the Vizsla puppy was at my rent's house the Pug ran upstairs and hid under the bed and wouldn't come out until the puppy left.

How the Vizsla is to my dogs.

Dakota - The Vizsla puppy bites Dakota, she ignores the puppy and goes on doing whatever it is she was doing. Dakota is the type of dog that you could do pretty much anything to her and she'd still lick and wag her tail.

Riley - The Vizsla puppy snapped at him twice and since then he has been wanting to go after her. I have to restrict him because of this. He also doesn't like it when the puppy bites Dakota and gets really riled when seeing this.

How the Vizsla acts to people.

Snaps and growls at her owners and others one minute then the next she's sleeping in their arms. My sister in law wears long sleeve shirts so she doesn't get all bit up.

So, looking to get an outside opinion - normal puppy behavior or something that needs to get in check?

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Old 07-21-2013, 03:50 AM
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The Vizsla definitely needs to learn some manners... In older posts you said the puppy was around 8 months old...

Even at 5 months old he should have learned 'leave it'... Bullying a tiny dog like that is unacceptable.. It's not normal puppy play... The Vizsla is getting into adolence, and if they don't teach him some manners, he's going to be very difficult to handle...
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Definitely too rough. Anything that ends in a real dog fight is way over the line.

Humans need to manage the situation so the pug is not so victimized. She probably is incapable of providing the "correction" to the large puppy that would teach manners dog-to-dog, so some human interference/training is needed.

Don't over do the correction of the puppy though, as that might backfire to the puppy having a negative association with the pug ("I see pug and someone gets mad at me.") More management such as the puppy on a leash, gates, crates, escape routes for the smaller dog and so forth is the place to start. Then also use positive training to teach the puppy to be calm around the pug.

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Yea personally I would intervene. In addition to management and teaching impulse control in general, one technique I like for helping teach puppies to moderate their play is a "three strikes" approach...

1. Pick a verbal cue (I use "easy" or "enough") for when supervised play gets too rough
2. If the verbal cue is ignored (which it will be at first), a short time-out to cool off (just 15-30 seconds) then release back to play.
3. Three strikes (cue ignored 3x in a row) - you are out of play and off to no-fun land for at least an hour.

It works very quickly if you're consistent. Squash can play pretty rough with Maisy, and she's a total doormat with him but he respects the EASY.
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Thanks guys, tried to reply on my phone but that was a no go.

The pup is under a year but several months old - exact age unknown but that gives you an idea how big it is based on the breed.
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