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Old 04-20-2013, 07:35 AM
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Question Responsible Labrador Breeder near Albuquerque NM

I am looking into getting a Labrador Retriever Pup. The research I have found leads me to The Enchanted Pine Kennels I was wondering if anyone lives in the Albuquerque New Mexico area and can confirm that this group is a good breeder.

I have never went through a breeder before so I don't really know what the goods and bads are for breeders.

Any Help would be much appreciated.
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I've had labradors they are really wonderful

that breeder at first glance looks good, Im in Europe so I have never heard of them but they show and hunt which is very good, check the eyes and joints which are basic health tests and they have very few breeding dogs. Those are the first thing you look for. They also seem to care greatly where the puppies go so thats good as well.

just a few things if you decide to call them.

1. Make sure that the litter comes from health tested parents and that the joints are checked annually.

2. Also that the Parents at least one have had some success in the show ring they seemed to have rather young dogs some are not finished. This is important because it does raise the question whether they are showing to improve the breed or as an advertisement.

3. Ask how often they breed, bitches should not be bred more than three times during their lifetime and not before they are 2 years old and not later than 7 years old.

4. ask about the COI% (co-efficience of inbreeding) it means how related the parents are find the average for the breed (quick google search) and it really shouldn't be much higher than that in my opinion.

5. Ask about bloat in the line and other common labrador deseases that there are no genetic tests for

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The site states that all dogs are hip/elbow checked via OFA and have eye certs. This is a good thing! You can confirm this, and confirm the results, by doing a quick search on OFAs website: Orthopedic Foundation for Animals

Also, here's a list of the health tests suggested by OFA for Labs: Canine Health Information Center: CHIC Information and it looks like hips/elbows/eyes are the big ones (note the other optional ones though, asking the breeder about them might not be a bad idea).

Ditto asking about show ring successes BUT I'd personally be more than willing to accept working trial successes TOO (IE: the dog is halfway to his conformation championship, but has also taken several hunting trials).

Otherwise, I don't know the breeder personally, but nothing I'm seeing on the sight is sending out huge warning signals.
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I didn't see any field trial titles it wasn't clear whether they compete or just hunt.
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I didn't see any field trial titles it wasn't clear whether they compete or just hunt.

I didn't see any titles either, but its worth noting, if they DO compete I'd be more than willing to accept proof of those wins to go with a halfway there conformation title.
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Ditto the others suggestions above.

Another thing is a responsible breeder will ask you a ton of questions. They most likely will have the litter accounted for and you'll be placed on a waiting list if they consider you a good match.

Also, in their contract, they will mention that they will always take the dog back if for some reason you cannot keep it.

I'm sure I'm leaving out some stuff but those stand out to me.

I took a look at the site and it looks good except I saw that only 2 of the girls had their hip\elbow results posted. Didn't look at the boys but it's worth questioning why the other 2 didn't.


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I took a look at the site and it looks good except I saw that only 2 of the girls had their hip\elbow results posted. Didn't look at the boys but it's worth questioning why the other 2 didn't.


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I saw that too. They don't give DOB, but if they're less than 2yrs old then they can't have had them done yet.
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I take it back, they've both been done, most likely they haven't bothered to update the site

Enchanted Pine Which Hunt?: Orthopedic Foundation for Animals

Enchanted Pine Mama Said: Orthopedic Foundation for Animals

(this is why checking the OFA site is so important lol, alot of small private breeders manage their sites for themselves and they don't update well)
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Thank you all so much

I have been through many forums about a lot of different subjects. The friend of mine that sent me here said they have never been to a better forum. They were right. The knowledge and speed of response is unbelievable. I wasn't expecting anything for a couple of days.

Thanks again for all the help and will be happy to keep updated on my new family member.
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They look good from what I saw on the website. It looks like they show some of their dogs, make sure all retrieve, and do hunt tests with some as well. To me, moving onto 100 acres for the animals shows some seriousness/dedication..... Clean whelping box in the house, happy/healthy looking pups and parents from good bloodlines, health tests.
All seems to check out.

I would inquire if the dogs get to spend time inside with them. Also, find out when the pups go home--any earlier than 8 wks would be a red flag, but I get the impression that won't be the case.

There is a great checklist for lab breeders that I will post later from my computer.
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