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This is a discussion on Puppy Shots within the Puppy Help forums, part of the Dog Training and Behavior category; I mentioned in another thread that I would not expose my puppy to outside dogs until it has had its third set of shots. Even ...

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Old 04-15-2012, 11:13 AM
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Puppy Shots

I mentioned in another thread that I would not expose my puppy to outside dogs until it has had its third set of shots. Even though I know when my puppies were weaned and how long it was between weaning and their first shot. It is still no guarantee that the first shot did anything. As long as the puppy has Moms antibodies running through its system. Any shots you give them are worthless. You might as well inject them with water.
Correct me if I am wrong. I want to think it is 3 weeks before the antibodies are out of the puppies system. That is as long as the puppy does not nurse on mom.

If a client wants to get a puppy groomed that has not had three shots. They must bring them in their own kennel and stay close in the area to pick them up as soon as I am done. All young puppies are done straight through as soon as they are dropped off. This is for their protection not mine.
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The way our vet explained it to me, and by no way am I an expert (exactly the opposite!), but it depends on the dog. Some pups antibodies are out of their system around the time of their first shots, however, some still have antibodies right up until before their third set.
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:38 AM
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I got my pup at 8 weeks at 10 weeks he had his first set ofvaccinations and then at 12 weeks his second lot. In the UK it comes in 2's. After the 2nd the dog is still not allowed out round the others or on the park etc untill 2 weeks after. I stuck to this I let my dog in the garden and thats all. As you say its for the dogs own health so I would stick to the rule of no contact round others or the area others are in untill those final shots
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I am in Texas, distemper and parvo are 2 of the main diseases found here. What is mainly found in the UK or Canada?
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in the UK i have heard that there is parvo in some areas but all the diseases seemed to be wiped out there for quite a number of years because of the compulsary vaccination law. i know there are people that don't get vaccines but they don't take their animals to the vet at all and thats probably contributed to the diseases coming back.
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I know in our city in Ontario Canada, parvo is rampant. When I brought my boy to the vet for his first shots, they had just sent home two pups, and were expecting another in later that day.
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Here in Ontario puppies usually recieve 3 sets of vaccinations.

8 Weeks: Distemper Adeno-2 Parvo
12 Weeks: Booster of DAP and at this time non-core vaccines like Bordetella, Lyme and Lepto are discussed
16 weeks: Booster of DAP, non-core vaccines and Rabies

Veterinarians may vaccinate a puppy as early as 6 weeks of age for its first set. My girl happened to be at 7 weeks so her sched is 7, 11 and 15 weeks.

You can introduce your puppy to healthy dogs of KNOWN vaccine status. These could be family or friends. Its common practice here that puppies can attend puppy classes after their second vaccinations at 12 weeks of age where he or she can interact with other healthy puppies and learn proper behaviors. For more inexperienced dog owners these classes can be very helpful. For my girl I have chosen an excellent facility to do one-on-one classes and she will join a group class after her 3rd set of vaccines (more so due to dates of classes then anything). These facilities should have proper disinfection protocols, require proof of vaccinations and be knowledgable.

Should you let your puppy that only has first or second set of vaccinations run loose around the dog park or public areas or walking trails? No. I don't agree on that, especially if you are in an area that is popular for parvo or kennel cough. However, that does not mean you need to isolate your dog until its 16 weeks old either. You can socialize your puppy and do so safely. You can attend puppy classes and not put the dog in harms way if you did your research on the facility. There are some pretty important developmental stages that you'll want to meet. If you have a shy puppy, socialization is going to be even more important.

Talk to your veterinarian about when to start puppy classes. See what the "norm" is for your area and what diseases you need to be worried about most. Some areas are higher risk for parvo then others. You can even get recommendation of knowledgable trainers in your area.

Of course I respect LynneMarie's views and I do give her credit that she is keeping the health and well being of the dogs in mind. However, I think there is a way to do things a little earlier as long as you are aware and careful.
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Here in the US puppies get four sets of shots.
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^^ Here, that only depends on when the initial shots were started. That's not a set rule.
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See protocols are different in each location and I think the best person to talk to regarding your puppies vaccinations and potential puppy classes would be your veterinarian. This way you know what is to be expected in your area and how you should go about providing your dog with socialization.

Locally, we do see a lot of kennel cough (which our puppies are vaccinated for in their second set at 12 weeks) and we do see parvo a little bit. This is why I won't go public places with the dog until its fully vaccinated. It's such a hardy virus. This is why for my puppy classes I have chosen facilities that have disinfection protocols that I feel are appropriate.

I'm curious though Lynne, what is the vaccine protocol for your area?
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