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Old 04-05-2015, 11:58 PM
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Puppy HATES the word No.

My puppy has been mouthing me alot lately, I have been trying to re-enforce the proper things to chew on, by replacing my arm with a toy. Sometimes she just won't stop. When I tell her no, she seems to get defiant and barks at me repeatedly and backs up as she does it, then lunges to bite at me again. I have started putting her in her "room" after she repeatedly does this and doesn't back off. Does she understand the word no? And hate it? She does cause some damage, I have cuts from her puppy teeth. She is already 45lbs and is gonna be 4mo old in 5 days. She also grabs clothing and pulls on them, has torn a few items of clothing.
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It's not that she hates it, it's that she still thinks you're playing. You 'barked' at her, so she's going to bark back! Puppies and their razor sharp teeth are ... really a trial. Putting her away every time she does it so she knows playtime is over should eventually do the trick, and keep substituting self for toy.
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ohhhh, the teething stage..oh joy !!!
im rubbish on computers but there are some really good training guides and info i cant seem to put he link in for some reason ??...in the training section on this forum. My pup is 8 months so we have moved passed this stage. The biting stage didnt last long for Willow..we did what you are doing..if she nipped too hard we would stop playing straight away and ignore her for a min..if she did it again within a short time we would get up an move away from her..she got very quickly if she hurt the fun stopped. We also made sure she had plenty of things to chew on..her fav is a cold carrot and frozen peanut butter in a kong..if she chewed something she wasnt allowed that was removed and replaced with something she was allowed then praised when she chewed something she was allowed..she play bites now when she gets very excited..bu its more of a gentle hold..she has learnt to use her mouth very very softly..but mostly you can see her stopping herself from mouthing..its only when she gets very excited now. I dont know if what i did is the 'right' way but it seems to have worked for her an she learnt quickly..although it was probably the longest few weeks at the time ..
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'No' really means nothing to a dog. How many times do you think it comes up in random conversation? The answer is a lot! So even if you can manage to use it consistently when addressing your dog, the irrelevant babble that they also hear it in will weaken the meaning of the word. It would be sort of like trying to give your dog an 'and' command or a 'like' command and expecting them to distinguish the word as it applies to them.

Instead of trying to physically put her in her 'corner' or her 'room' (which necessitates you reaching for a chompy puppy) try removing yourself from her access instead: either tether her somewhere where you can easily step out of reach when she's not playing nicely, or gate off an area so that you can just exit her 'pen' if she gets out of hand. This will teach her that biting humans will make them disinterested in being around her.
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My puppy has been mouthing me alot lately, I have been trying to re-enforce the proper things to chew on, by replacing my arm with a toy. Sometimes she just won't stop. When I tell her no, she seems to get defiant and barks at me repeatedly and backs up as she does it, then lunges to bite at me again. I have started putting her in her "room" after she repeatedly does this and doesn't back off. Does she understand the word no? And hate it? She does cause some damage, I have cuts from her puppy teeth. She is already 45lbs and is gonna be 4mo old in 5 days. She also grabs clothing and pulls on them, has torn a few items of clothing.

She doesn't understand no, but she may be reacting to the tone of your voice if you are saying it in a serious, stern, voice.

You're halfway on the right track.

What I do with landshark puppies, is NEVER play with them with my hands and feet, my rule is no puppy teeth on my skin or clothing. Be calm and gentle with them, no getting them riled up, it just makes them lose what little control they have. Don't move fast past them, it tends to cause them to want to chase and catch.

After that I set about teaching them that the ONLY way I will play is if he has a toy in his mouth. To do that...
1. When he bites me I give him a toy and play with him with it.
2. If he drops it and tries biting me again I again give him the toy and play with him with it.
3. If he drops it a third time and bites me again I get up and get out of reach.
4. After a few minutes I'll go back and try again. Repeating steps 1-3 as needed.
5. Expect the training to take a few weeks, puppies tend to forget and tend to loose control when they are excited or overtired, so it might seem that he'll never earn but he will!

To get out of reach I do a few things, and it depends on the size of the puppy. If I have a chair, couch, or bed, that the pup is to small to follow me onto I'll get on there and ignore him. I will also leave the room by crossing a baby gate or closing the door on him so he can't follow. If I can't do either of those then I'll put the pup in a crate or ex-pen and give him a chew or something to keep him occupied.


If you suspect the pup is overtired and losing control due to that you can put him in his crate and leave him in it 5 or 10 min to see if he'll take a nap. A tired puppy can be very nippy.

If he's insisting on paying the chase the feet, bite the ankle game, you can try redirecting to a toy, or you can arm yourself with kibble (if he loves it) or treats broken into very small (the size of your little fingernail) pieces. Then when you get up and walk, drop him a couple pieces of the food as you walk along.
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PMSL @ landshark puppies !!!! hahahahahaha, ive never heard that but its a perfect description
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My dog was like that. We finally managed to get past the human-chewing (she`ll try it every now and then - 2 years old) but she has the same reaction to the phrase "Ei tohi" - it means something like "You can`t do that" in English. I was not very dog-smart when I got her and let`s just say we had a lot of screaming matches with her .. me going Ella, ei tohi, ei tohi and Ella barking her head off

And to this day, if I say "Ei tohi", she starts barking at me It`s pretty funny and sometimes when we`re in a group of friends, I`ll go like, guys, want to see something funny? And then say "Ella, ei tohi!" and she`ll bark up a storm

So you have managed to basically teach your dog a "start barking" command

But what really works - as has been pointed out - is ignoring them when they get pestering.

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("Ei tohi" sounds almost Finnish to me. )

Our old dog has (unintentionally) learned that "pass auf!" (watch out!) means to go "bodyguard" and growl.
Dogs don't get the meaning of words, but they watch you closely and sometimes they get different clues by watching your bodylanguage than what your intending and saying.

I'd chose a different word as a abort command and start establishing it completely new. Perhaps "hej" or "don't"...it doesn't matter what word, as long as it is only used for these situations, when you need it, and for training.
when she stops her action, reward her with something nice (food, playing, cuddles,praise,hatever is rewarding for her).
An aquaintance of mine trained her Rottweiler on the abort command "Prinzessin" (engl.rincess).
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[QUOTE=Zgoldielocks;2474650] When I tell her no, she seems to get defiant and barks at me repeatedly and backs up as she does it, then lunges to bite at me again.

Dogs don't speak or understand language. Your dog thinks you are barking so she barks back. This may help you understand how to change the game to one that will teach your pup what you want instead of encouraging what you don't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c77--cCHPyU
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