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Old 06-30-2014, 12:44 AM
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Unhappy Puppy hates her crate

Hey everyone! I'm brand new to this site and kind of shy, so sorry if I come off a bit awkward.

On Wednesday we brought home a 10 week old female Miniature Australian Shepherd puppy named Ava. She's been very good and minds well so far. The next day I put her on a leash for the first time and she heeled perfectly and has since. She is very quiet and calm, but is starting to get used to us and come out of her shell.

For the first few days she would hold her pee in for so long, I was beginning to worry something was wrong with her. She would hold it for nearly eight hours! I would take her outside every hour but she would refuse. But today she actually pooed three times, so I think she was just feeling unsure of her new surroundings. She was trained to puppy pads, so whenever i see her go towards one I take her out. We have only had one accident on the carpet floor.

Her only problem is her crate. I expected her to whine the first few nights, but it is constant. The entire night she barks and howls. I can't believe how loud she is! She will tear at the wire with her paws and rattle it and scream, and even if I take her out and she potty's before I put her to bed, she still poos inside her crate. I have ignored her completely so far, and I'm getting really tired from running low on sleep. She is with us the entire day and get's plenty of playtime. She only gets crated at night when we go to bed. Her crate is not too big for her. I've gotten up in the middle of the night to take her out to poo and she never goes, but I still wake up to find she pooped in her crate. What can I do to help her get over this? She's a very whiny clingy pup; this morning I took her to the bathroom to watch her while I got ready and she whined because I wasn't paying attention to her. I still ignored her.

She sleeps almost all day because she stays up all night screaming. I've tried covering her crate with a blanket and giving her stuffed Kongs and turning on a radio for her. Nothing seems to help. She ignores the Kongs and just gets poop on them. Her blanket is thrown around and she completely messes her crate up. Am I doing anything wrong? How did you get your pup over her/his crate issues? Or do I just need to keep letting her cry it out?

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Old 06-30-2014, 11:51 AM
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You've gone about this completely the wrong way.

If you are only crating her at night she probably sees the crate as her prison, the place where she goes when you leave her all alone. You need her to think of her crate as her safe place, leave it open during the day, reward her when she pays any sort of attention to it and leave treats inside it to encourage her to go inside, you want her to think if it as her den, a place she can go any time of the day to be safe, it should be a good thing not a bad. Crate training isn't about stuffing a dog in there and letting them scream it out, tbh i consider that pretty cruel. This process is going to take longer now too probably as you've already conditioned her to think of the crate as a bad place.. If you want to know how to crate train properly here is a good link, i suggest you follow the advice given here 5 Ways to Crate Train Your Dog or Puppy - wikiHow . Also you didnt mention where the crate was kept but the crate should at first be kept in your bedroom at night and in the living room or kitchen during the day so she isnt left alone, slowly you can move the crate from you room to outside your door, then into to the hall and eventually you can leave her in the living room even at night. If your dog uses its crate for naps in the day, your doing it right.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:04 PM
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Thanks for your feedback!

I have tried putting her in my room while she was crated so she could see me, but she would scream even in there so I had to move her to the bathroom because she was so loud. I fed her in her crate today with the door open and she's fine; she walks in and eats. Last night though, she didn't have an accident in the crate, which was awesome.

I'm 15 and will be a sophomore when school starts up again. I was planning on putting her in the fenced backyard with my outside dog because my parents aren't home that time of day either, and I will certainly not crate her that long during the day.

So, if she sees it as her 'prison' now, what should I do for nighttime? I'm just afraid to let her sleep in my bed in case she has an accident while I'm asleep. I suppose I could just set an alarm on my phone to get up and take her out. Otherwise I would be fine with her in my bed.

So what would you say I should do for the nighttime? Would you recommend I keep feeding her in her crate and giving her treats to get her to enjoy her crate, and let her sleep with me until then?
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The only way I could calm Blackjack at first was by putting him next to my bed and putting my hand on the top of the crate and have my fingers through the bars, that way he knew i was always there. I only needed to do this for a couple of nights then I slowly moved him across the room. I didn't continue crating him for more than a couple of weeks though, only untill he was 100% house trained. But thats personal choice, I wouldn't have it any other way, we sleep on my kingsize bed now, he manages to take up 80% of it though, god knows how lol. No one method works 100% for everybody, every dog and every guardian is different, see what works for you both and go with it, sometimes it takes a little trial and error. Have you tried putting something that smells of you in the crate with her? that may calm her, also a hot water bottle can simulate a sleeping buddy, just make sure the water isnt too hot, you dont want your pup to get burnt if she accidently pops it.

As long as you know that the dogs are 100% fine together that sounds like a viable option for when you go back to school, make sure though because with noone to intervene your dog may get pissed at the pup. And obvs, shelter and water always available. I imagine she would much prefer the run of the garden to being stuck her crate for so long, we ended up leaving Blackjack loose in the house after we'd had him about 2 months, he managed to break his first crate after he had escaped from it twice, he then escaped from his 2nd crate 5 times and we just gave up, he wasn't doing any damage to the house and he was just going to hurt himself on one of his escape attempts eventually.


*Blackjack was around 7 months old when we had him, and "apparently" crate trained but "un-toilet trainable", but i'm guessing he wasn't used to a crate seen as the issues that we had, so we basically started from scratch with the crate as you are, ironically toilet training him was ridiculously easy so i'm pretty sure his ex-owners were just lazy.

Good luck, and enjoy all the love and affection

p/s sorry if i came across as harsh in my first response i had just woken up and i was grumpy lol

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My two biggest suggestion to add are: 1. Clean the crate with an enzymatic cleaner after each accident after you've disinfected it. 2. Take any and all bedding out. I'd probably toss the bedding he's pooped on.

Sometimes dogs find it easier to poop/pee on their bedding and smush it over to the side to give themselves a clean place to sleep (which defeats the purpose of using the crate.

Also, you say you take him out to potty right before bed. Is he actually peeing and pooping, or just peeing? You nay need to get up with him more than once to take him out.
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