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Old 05-24-2013, 03:15 PM
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So, I'm not sure.. But I think Keppet's biting is getting worse and worse. At least today she bit very hard. As in jumped up.. got a mouthfull of my arm and held on. I only bled a little, but still, bleedign is not good.. My leggs are and arms are full of bruises and my hands are full of bitemarks.

I try to do that thing where I stick a toy at her when she bites. But she decides to bite me instead. If I try walking away she just gets worse. So I pick her up and crate her. I might be doing things wrong. It hurts so much when she bites now that I can't help shouting a bit.

It seemed to be getting better for a while. But now she goes ballistic every now and then.

Is this normal? And could I get some tips on how to stay calm or keep from shouting? Thank god I'm starting puppyclass next week. I'm terrified she will bite anyone else this way.

We were playing, so maybe she was overstimulated? She has had enough excersize today so it can't be the energy thing.. I think.
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:32 PM
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I keep seeing all these posts of puppies biting a lot, and I never had that problem with Archer. I think I know why.

I don't play with him like another dog would. I don't play with my hands or my body with him, so he never learned to associate my skin with something he should have his teeth on.

What I do with him are calm things. I'll hold his nylabone for him to chew on, work on our training as a game, play with the flirt pole, play fetch, etc, but NEVER do I play with him with my hands. My hands are only for feeding, petting, and calm things.

So what I would do is stop all playing with your hands. Find other calm ways to play. When she starts nipping at you and won't take another toy instead, put her in her crate or a playpen or a safe area outside with some toys she can play rough with.

It REALLY helps for them to have a playmate to play like a dog with. Finding a friend for her to play with would be very helpful.
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:52 PM
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Thanks!

I don't ever wrestle with her, or use my hands for play. She tries to bite when I pet her.

I hand feed her some times, feed her treats form my hands, hold her chew things some times. She never bites when food is involved.

I will try to do more of the training and less of the fetching game. Find some calm games. I'm going to get her started on tracking as fast as possible.

One thing is that elkhounds are hunting dogs. They stop the elks by scaring them into standing still. The elkhound puppies do this for play.

I ill definitely get her a puppy friend! Thanks.
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I have the same problem It's so painful when he bites. I just dont play stimulating games with him anymore and the biting has cut back. Also I've never played with him with my hand either. (sometimes my roommates do though and I keep telling them not to but boys will be boys ) Although sometimes he bites even when I'm just sitting still and not even touching him. The toy thing doesn't work for me. I've been working on the "no biting" video that kikopup has and it helps a little bit. I'd try that out. Also get a flirt pole. It keeps his attention away from you when he is playing and you can easily sit on the couch while swinging it around. I just tied a rope to part of a fishing pole with a toy on the end and he loves chasing it. I don't play tug or fetch because those games get him too excited and he starts biting me. Also filling kongs with treats occupy them for awhile.

When Goose gets really bitey and starts growling and barking I take that as him being too tired so I put him in his sleeping spot with a bully stick to let him calm down and he usually falls asleep within 10 minutes. Those things last forever too, for him they do anyway since he is still a puppy.

I'm also starting puppy class next week so if I find out any good methods that work for Goose I will let you know! It sounds to me like they are on the same level right now.
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Thanks Anna. I have seen that video. I will start training that tomorrow! I have not been doing that a lot. I will try that flirt pole things aswell.

I just worry that I'm doing things wrong and making her worse. It's funny that you're starting puppy class at the same time as me. Hehe.
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Thanks Anna. I have seen that video. I will start training that tomorrow! I have not been doing that a lot. I will try that flirt pole things aswell.

I just worry that I'm doing things wrong and making her worse. It's funny that you're starting puppy class at the same time as me. Hehe.
I always think I'm doing things wrong too! At least we're not alone in this
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It's funny that I came on here this morning to write a post EXACTLY, word-for-word, like the first post here.

Things seemed better yesterday, but here we've been up less than an hour this morning, and while I was getting his leash untangled from a bush, he went for my shoes again. When I got him off of my shoe, he escalated into fierce growling and faster than a NY second, he latched onto the soft part of my hand between the thumb and first finger in a death grip, continued growling, and nothing I could do made any difference. And there's blood, not just pain.

I confess to losing my cool, calling him a bad name while I walked him inside and put him in his crate. Then I sat down to cry and post here. What am I doing?! I don't play hand games, I feed by hand, I'm trying to do everything in slow motion. We just got up, he peed, pooped and had breakfast, so he shouldn't be tired, cranky or hungry. I've tried rewarding for what I DO want him to do (leave my body parts alone). I'm just at my wits end and the puppy class isn't till NEXT weekend! Even my friends with dogs who are willing to get together all have commitments and say they can't till next weekend.

I don't know what to do -- he can't live in his crate all the time. I don't want a biter. I don't want to be scared of my own dog.
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Today I found my old whip, tied a toy to is and used it as a flirt pole. I've spent more time on the training (sit, lie down, get up and that sort of stuff) I've also done a bit of that "how to get your puppy to stop biting" stuff. I treat her when she doesn't bite while i pet her face and paws or touch her collar. If she bites I go away, even if it's only the tiniest bit of mouthing. She doesn't follow me to bite now. I gues I was being a little dim about not leaving early enough.

She has only bitten me when I put her harness on today. I will start giving her treats while putting the harness on, I think it might help.

Cobbersmom! Try getting a flirtpole. Also try watching that youtube video! I will try to find the link.

Today she has let me kiss her on the face without even being interested in biting my nose. First time ever! (she still wants to steal my glasses though..)
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Thanks! I've watched this like five times over the past few days. Honestly, I understand the concept and I've done this over and over with Cobber. He does great and i'm able to touch him all over and move my feet around. But then we're out, not specifically in a training moment, and like lightning, he's on me. I wish her video were actually with a puppy like mine, so when she shuffles her feet like she does, the pup would actually do what mine does. I'd honestly like to see what she does when a dog bites hard and refuses to let go. Is there video footage of that anywhere?

And thank you! I'm not trying to sound ungrateful for all the suggestions. I'm just really discouraged.
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