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Old 12-13-2015, 04:03 AM
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Out of Control Dominating Puppy

This is my second post about my puppy and need help with his behaviour.
He is an almost eight month old basset hound puppy.
He has become out of control. As mentioned in the other post about his biting and nipping. That was a good few weeks ago and have been trying the impulse training and I haven't seen any improvements, in fact it feels likes he has become getting worse.
He continues to bite and nip, when I say bite it is more of a nip but it's getting harder and it actually hurts.
Even when you try encourage him with a toy or something else he will totally ignore it and keep his eyes on your hands and will continue to do anything to get to your hands, even if you hide under a blanket so he can't get to you he will bark and dig and dig to try and get to you he is that determend even though he is hurting us with scratching etc and he Yelp in pain he doesn't care.
He is also going through the humping stage were again he will do anything to get to your arm again the process hurting you by scratching and Nipping your arm.

We time him out and as soon as the door is open he will run back and try get your arms.
Also when I get up he will jump into my spot but when I get back and try move him he will growl and refuse to move, this happens when you try move him from anywhere. This is a sign of dominance from what I've read.

He isn't like this outside when he's on a walk he doesn't nip or bite anyone outside when they come over to see or pet him the same goes for other dogs he is great with other dogs and just wants to play.

All this happens in the house which shows dominance as its his place. He doesn't listen. He does what he wants.

Now we read that Bassett are hard to train but this has gone to far, to the boy partner has started to regret getting him, don't worry we have no plans or desires on getting rid of him, as we both believe that a dog is a life long commitment and even though he does all that we love him to pieces, as he can be loving when he wants to be.

Can anyone suggest what we can do in the house to help and get him back under control,

We are planning on getting a dog trainer but we want to try things to help.

Also could anyone recommend a good trainer in Chester / Cheshire (uk)

Thanks

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Old 12-13-2015, 07:52 AM
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It is not dominance, it's a puppy thing. Get the whole 'dominance theory' out of your head. It is false and has been debunked. There are a lot of sites out there about it, and some stickies around here too.

Bassets can be stubborn, trust me I know. I have one sleeping next to me right now. If redirecting him and time outs aren't working have you tried leaving the room when he acts up. It's annoying sure, but it works on many dogs. When he acts up, nipping etc get up and remove yourself. Go behind a door or even a baby gate. For the couch, if he growls I'd not let him up on the furniture. Work on training 'off'. Use treats and teach invite him up, then use a treat and lure him off while giving whatever word you want to use.
Make sure he is getting plenty of exercise, both mental and physical.

https://positively.com/dog-training/...eory-debunked/
De-Bunking the "Alpha Dog" Theory - Whole Dog Journal Article
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https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...nce-dogs-4076/
I see in another thread you were linked to the https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...ipping-168082/ and the https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...lmness-168218/ stickies. I would also recommend checking out the https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...k-list-115977/ and since you are trying to find a trainer https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...iorist-113946/

Edit: Also want to add this http://3lostdogs.com/thinking-of-ret...ad-this-first/

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As other have said, you do not have a future world dictator on your hands. But you do have a teenager, which can feel more or less the same. My sympathies. The good news is that time will help.

If you are yelping in pain and your dog keeps nipping, I would stop yelping. To you, it means "ow, I hurt so much." To him, it may simply be an exciting play noise. Yes, it would be nice if dogs were actually able to tell when they are hurting us...but they don't always have those inter-species translating abilities. You need to look at all the different things that might be reinforcing him, and cut all those off. Keep up the impulse control games, and definitely get a trainer to help cheer you on. You'll get through this!

Instead of trying to physically force your dog off the couch, and thus inviting a physical confrontation, try training him to get off when you ask. Have great treats in your pocket (always a good thing to have!). Say "off" (or a cue of your choice), and toss some treats a few feet away on the floor. When he gets off, tell him he's a genius, a terrific dog, and add a few more treats to the prize. Keep it up. Eventually, after a few weeks or more, he will start hopping off the couch and looking for treats when you say "off." At that point, you can start giving him loads of treats just for getting off the couch when you ask (no tossing ahead of time), but keep reinforcing after he hops off for many, many months. You want this to be something he does without feeling frustrated and conflicted, so that you too can experience a lot less frustration and conflict.
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The humping is excitement and over arousal (not sexual arousal), it's not dominance.
The growling when he's made to move off the couch is resource guarding, not dominance.
The biting nipping, is play excitement, not dominance.

Dogs do what is rewarding and they do what works to get them that reward. The problem with thinking everything is related to dominance is that the owner gets into a one sided power struggle and they never correctly identify whats really causing the behavior, at most the behavior is suppressed, but not corrected, and never really goes away or does go away but worse behavior replaces it.

For the humping try to redirect him onto a different activity as soon as you see signs that he's thinking about humping. If he does hump IMMEDIATELY remove either yourself or him from the room for a few minutes. He needs to learn that humping a human or a dog causes the fun time to end and gets him left alone. To get him to learn that you need to end the behavior as soon as he starts it and you have to do so EVERY time, no exceptions. If you let him get away with it once in awhile he'll continue to do it.

For the resource guarding of the couch, I'd recommend not allowing him on it, that's the easiest solution, but if you simply don't mind him up there then you need to teach him an OFF command as has been said. Here's a thread that has info on resource guarding https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...fication-7511/

The nipping can be handled similar to the humping. Try redirecting onto a toy first, and whenever you catch him with a toy try playing with him with it. If he goes for to nip you after you try to redirect try redirecting again. If he still tries nipping then either remove him from the room, or remove yourself for a few minutes before rejoining him to try again. Like humping he needs to learn that nipping a human causes the fun to end and gets left by himself. Like for the humping you need to do that EVERY time he nips, no exceptions. Do NOT every play with him with your bare hands, you'll just teach him to keep trying to play with them. The purpose of trying to redirect onto the toy is to teach him how you will play.

It is going to take a bit of time for him to learn, it could take a good month, but with consistency he will learn.
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sounds more like an overexcited adolescent puppy.

for the nipping try redirecting, make sure to act calm around him. yelping, screaming or scolding will probably make him even more excited.
Make sure he gets enough excercise mentally and physically. 40 minutes of walks plus training is good for a 8 months old dog.
if you feel he's easily distracted when training, use high value treats or playing as a reward and keep the training sessions short (1-3 minutes) but numerous through the day.
make sure that training is a positive experience for the dog.

Condition the dog in settling down on one place in your house (like a blanket, cage, dogbed) can also help relaxing the situation.
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