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Old 10-07-2010, 05:37 PM
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And my step-dad is very old fashioned and made me mad, too. My mom always gets mad at him when he threatens the dogs. I'm doing my best to keep Loeki /FAR AWAY/ from him at all times. He's raised 3 dogs so far, so my step-dad thinks his methods are the best. He told me to rub his face in his poo, too. And when I tried to explain that it's not the way to train a dog, he got offended and said that then obviously his 3 dogs were trained wrong. I'm hoping I can prove to everyone that I'm right on this. Their methods are NOT good.

It also made me mad that my entire family pressured me into agreeing to taking the dog to our family cabin this weekend. I explained about Parvo, how he's only had one shot, and they STILL refused. They screamed and threatened to take Loeki away from me if I keep 'babying' him.

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Yikes... No offense, but your family needs some serious re-education about dogs... It's probably a good thing I don't live nearby, I'd be sorely tempted to drive over there and throttle your dad :P Parvo is nothing to take lightly, just ask one of our other members that literally just lost one of her pups yesterday to parvo. Be as careful as you can!

As for the whining at night, in addition to the suggestions everyone else gave I find it sometimes helps pups sleep if they have a large stuffed animal (preferably some sort of dog) with a ticking clock of some sort to sleep with. The crate would be ideal, but this isn't a terrible backup option. The stuffed animal reminds them of sleeping with mommy and the clock simulates a heartbeat. If you put it on a warming pad its even better. This usually works better on pups that are lonely, but its possible it could soothe your high energy pup too.

Another thing you can do is give him interactive toys to play with at night. Unfortunately my usual suggestions (Buster Cube and Tug-a-Jug) are quite noisy, so they'd probably keep you up as well, but maybe some other folks have quieter toy suggestions. Maybe a stuffed & frozen Kong would work? There's all sorts of stuffing suggestions in the Dog Toy sub-forum.

Hopefully this helps!
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He does know commands. He knows sit, he sometimes knows lay down (Only without distractions, we're working on it), he knows loose leash, knows 'gentle' when he gets too heated, and I've shown my step-dad all of this and he just. Gets mad. |: I don't know.

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Yes, he does have a dog plushy bigger then him that he sleeps with (a border collie stuffed animal, too) and we use a heating pad. Often he likes to sleep with me, though. But if I roll around too much he gets off my bed and goes to his own to cuddle his 'mom'.

I also give him frozen kongs AND something called a pigs ear. It lasts an hour and a half its so hard to chew, Loeki LOVES it, and it cleans teeth apparently.

He just gets bored of toys if I'm not playing with them too. :|

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Yep, you're doing what you should be. Its the rest of your family that needs to spend some time on these forums until something sinks in

Good to hear you're already trying the stuffy-mom trick and frozen Kongs, sounds like you're really trying everything you can. Hopefully the extra exercise before bed, waking up before him, and radio stuff helps do the trick. I don't know if you have any dog parks nearby, but those do WONDERS at helping burn off that puppy energy. You have to wait until he's gotten all the vaccinations and boosters though, as you don't want to run the risk of another dog at the park infecting your baby with nasties.

Edit: Yeah, doesn't surprise me that he wants you to play with the toys too, that's common puppy behavior. Puppies are a lot like infants, anytime either are in the house you rarely get a solid night of sleep.

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Good grief. It upsets me so much to hear about grown men threatening to hurt puppies. I hope he does not treat you, your Mom or your sibs that way. Sorry for my bluntness. I just abhor violence. Its wrong, wrong, wrong, not to mention against the law. No puppy or child should ever be hit, ever, ever, ever.

Sorry for the emotion here. It breaks my heart to hear of this. You are a precious young lady with a good heart, and a wonderful young puppy you are taking great care of. Neither you nor your puppy, ever deserve to be hurt.

Maybe tell your step dad that it would be the most depressing thing in the world for you, if he ever hurt your puppy. Not only that, it would harm the dog hugely and could make him fearful and aggressive. They got him for you to help you feel happier. Puppyhood does not last forever. Step Dad just needs to be patient for a few months.

If you have to camp out in the yard with the puppy, to keep him safe from short tempered people, that is always an option perhaps! Meanwhile, yes, tire the little guy out more before bed. He's clearly ready for more exercise.

BTW, I would not worry about going to a cabin in the woods. That's not the sort of place one typically picks up diseases. The wilds are actually quite clean. It's city parks and rest stops you want to be careful of. Enjoy the access to all sorts of places you can get Loeki very tired playing in!

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Recently my new step dad started pushing Maisy down instead of asking her and giving her the hand signal for it...(how hard is a pointed finger to the ceiling, REALLY?) so instead of attacking him for it, which I dearly wanted to, I got him involved. Gave him some really high value treats and asked him to ask Maisy for a high five, a wave, a down, a sit, etc., and instead of getting the self-reward of having her leave him alone when he pushed her, he got a much bigger hit of self-reinforcement of him asking her to do it and her doing much much more for him...try the same thing. Get him involved, say that your pup is more likely to do what he asks if he gets her to do a trick...and uh, act like your pup wouldn't do it for you but would for him...just tell that lie and it'll win you a lot more happy for the puppy and you.
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Wow! That is definitely a tough situation. You sound like your already doing everything I would do and doing a great job. I'll have to think a bit more on how I handled my family and see if I can remember anything that someone else hasn't already suggested.
Just maybe if you had your step dad try doing one of the commands you taught him that he has down really good he would warm up to him a bit and be a little more understanding.
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Looks like Tulip and I were thinking the same thing.
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Recently my new step dad started pushing Maisy down instead of asking her and giving her the hand signal for it...(how hard is a pointed finger to the ceiling, REALLY?) so instead of attacking him for it, which I dearly wanted to, I got him involved. Gave him some really high value treats and asked him to ask Maisy for a high five, a wave, a down, a sit, etc., and instead of getting the self-reward of having her leave him alone when he pushed her, he got a much bigger hit of self-reinforcement of him asking her to do it and her doing much much more for him...try the same thing. Get him involved, say that your pup is more likely to do what he asks if he gets her to do a trick...and uh, act like your pup wouldn't do it for you but would for him...just tell that lie and it'll win you a lot more happy for the puppy and you.
Tulip, you are brilliant with this suggestion!!!

You too Esme!!! (sorry, just read yours too!)

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I humour idiots, and to be very frank, my five year old brother is better with dogs than most people I know!

Keep at it, I converted my family from dog morons to reasonable (my sister has even managed to foster and rehome a friend's dog without hitting it to gain control, which is phenominal for her!) and you can do it too.
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I humour idiots, and to be very frank, my five year old brother is better with dogs than most people I know!

Keep at it, I converted my family from dog morons to reasonable (my sister has even managed to foster and rehome a friend's dog without hitting it to gain control, which is phenominal for her!) and you can do it too.
We need more people like you on the planet! I just throw up my hands in despair, or burst into tears of grief, at such situations, neither of which response will help move people forward towards kindness.

You are going to make a great positive difference in this world, if already, you are making such progress in your family.
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