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Old 06-18-2013, 11:38 AM
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Need help regaining puppy trust back

Hello everyone. Im in need of assistance any help is welcome. I just aquired a 45 day old beagle and he isint comfortable with me. We've been together for a week or so and he was a happy puppy around me the first week but now he doesnt seem to trust me. He follows me around when I call him and in general but he doesnt enjoy being near me. If I sit down he sits far away from me and giving me his back. If I hold him he starts yawning and doesnt seem to enjoy petting from me.

I tend to yell at him a bit too much but since ive noticed that behavior I've stopped doing it. I dont beat my puppy, but we were playing together and he got hurt accidentally and he went running over to my girlfriend and I just let him be since I felt horrible after it happened. He hurt his head a little and cried, he fell back a bit hard after he was jumping with me. Any tips on getting his trust back? Im worried he wont feel comfortable around me. Please help me out.
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First start thinking of him at the age he actually is and set your expectations accordingly. He's around 7 weeks old that means in human terms he's around the age of, at the most, a 2 year old human.

You wouldn't yell at a 2 year old right? You wouldn't expect a baby to know not to put stuff in his mouth, or if you put underwear on him to not pee in them. Instead you'd take what he was chewing on and give him his own toy, you'd work to prevent potty accidents and work to teach him to use the toilet. When you couldn't supervise him you'd put him in his child proofed room behind a baby gate, or in his crib or playpen so that he couldn't get into what he shouldn't or get hurt. You wouldn't scream at him when you did that. It's the same for a puppy.

Screaming, as you found out, only causes the pup to be scared of you, but doesn't teach him what he should do.

When he shows you his back and yawns at you he's using calming signals https://www.dogforum.com/dog-behavior...signals-10084/ . It's his way of saying please calm down and don't hurt me. Try yawning back at him.

Also for now ignore him unless he comes to you, when you walk past him drop little (the size of your little finger nail) pieces of treats. Try clicker training him, do very short, 5 minutes at the most, sessions a couple times a day. Don't yell at him anymore. If you feel yourself getting that frustrated, calmly pick him up and put him in his crate with a really nice chew, and go take a walk or drive.

Here's some stick threads that will help you with your relationship with him. Don't worry you haven't completely ruined your relationship with him, he'll come to trust you!
https://www.dogforum.com/dog-training...rticles-11426/
https://www.dogforum.com/dog-training...ing-food-1219/
https://www.dogforum.com/dog-training...-fallout-4776/
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Part of the problem is you got him at 6 weeks. That's WAY too young.

Look, suppose I was your girlfriend and I cheated on you. You decide to forgive me and stay together, but are you going to just forget that I ripped your heart out? Heck no! I'm going to have to prove myself, be honest and reliable and spend a good long time re-earning your trust.

The same applies to the puppy. You've scared and hurt the puppy. Reasonably, he doesn't trust you. You need to spend a good, long time being kind, patient and reliable and then he'll trust you again.

Check out kikopup on youtube. That's how you train a dog.
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First start thinking of him at the age he actually is and set your expectations accordingly. He's around 7 weeks old that means in human terms he's around the age of, at the most, a 2 year old human.

You wouldn't yell at a 2 year old right? You wouldn't expect a baby to know not to put stuff in his mouth, or if you put underwear on him to not pee in them. Instead you'd take what he was chewing on and give him his own toy, you'd work to prevent potty accidents and work to teach him to use the toilet. When you couldn't supervise him you'd put him in his child proofed room behind a baby gate, or in his crib or playpen so that he couldn't get into what he shouldn't or get hurt. You wouldn't scream at him when you did that. It's the same for a puppy.

Screaming, as you found out, only causes the pup to be scared of you, but doesn't teach him what he should do.

When he shows you his back and yawns at you he's using calming signals https://www.dogforum.com/dog-behavior...signals-10084/ . It's his way of saying please calm down and don't hurt me. Try yawning back at him.

Also for now ignore him unless he comes to you, when you walk past him drop little (the size of your little finger nail) pieces of treats. Try clicker training him, do very short, 5 minutes at the most, sessions a couple times a day. Don't yell at him anymore. If you feel yourself getting that frustrated, calmly pick him up and put him in his crate with a really nice chew, and go take a walk or drive.

Here's some stick threads that will help you with your relationship with him. Don't worry you haven't completely ruined your relationship with him, he'll come to trust you!
https://www.dogforum.com/dog-training...rticles-11426/
https://www.dogforum.com/dog-training...ing-food-1219/
https://www.dogforum.com/dog-training...-fallout-4776/
Thank you very much. Ill try my best to let him reach out to me, hes in his teething stage and he has a mean bite. What if he doesnt come close though? I go visit him everytime he wakes up and we play for a bit, when he tries to bite me I just put the toy in his mouth and move away without the yelling. Ill try my best for him to trust me again.
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Sounds like you are already getting a good idea of what to do. Being patient is HUGE! Anytime you are getting frustrated because your pup doesn't "get it" your expectations are too high and you need to reset them a little lower. Your pup is young and will come around. You can try doing a few weeks of hand feeding too instead of using the dish - just helps the pup equate a great thing (eating!) with you, his human.

Regarding training sources, I really like Dr. Ian Dunbar, he uses positive training methods and has a great approach to what he calls "bite inhibition". He has a DVD available (or a digital amazon.com version) called SIRIUS puppy training. It gave me some wonderful ideas on how to approach working with my puppy who I also got at six weeks old. Basically too young. But she is now four months and is shaping up to be an excellent companion already!! Dr. Dunbar seriously saved me!!

All the best luck working with your beagle!
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Thank you very much. Ill try my best to let him reach out to me, hes in his teething stage and he has a mean bite. What if he doesnt come close though? I go visit him everytime he wakes up and we play for a bit, when he tries to bite me I just put the toy in his mouth and move away without the yelling. Ill try my best for him to trust me again.
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The hard play bite is likely because he was pulled way to young from his mom and siblings. They would have taught him to not bite so hard, now it'll be your job. When my boy was a pup I did it much like you describe but instead of giving him a toy and moving away I played with him with it, if after doing that two times he still tried to bite me I ended play and got out of his reach for a few minutes before trying again. He was never allowed to bite me without anything happening. Doing that taught him that biting me got him nothing and biting his toy got me to play with him. If he was really obnoxious he was to tired and I put him down for a nap. If that doesn't work some people have luck spraying their skin with bitter apple spray, they sell it at pet stores.

He'll start coming close again! He's a puppy and very young, he instinctively wants to be close to his humans since that's where it's safe. Once he sees that he has nothing to fear from you he'll be fine. Sit quietly on the floor with him, talk softly to him, encourage him to come to you, toss him little treats, offer to play with him. Just make sure to do everything gently.

I do understand what you're going through, and how hard it is to know you've broken that trust. I once had a puppy, she was around your boy's age when she did something that really annoyed me and I raised my voice at her. By her reacting you'd think I had suddenly turned into a monster, and it broke my heart to realize what I had done. It wasn't easy, and it wasn't fast, but I did manage to win back some of her trust before it was time for her to go to her new home, I could have repaired our relationship completely if I had had more time.
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Thanks again for the help I've seen progress with him so far which is good. Since hes a pup and all he does is sleep and play how often should I try to be close with him? Should I sit in the backyard with him every time he wakes up? Should I have someone with me when he wakes up so he feels more comfortable or should I try to just let him approach me when I'm by myself. I move away every time he tries to bite me and just calmly tell him to stop, if he doesn't I just scoot away. He seems to be able to spend more time with me nearby now. However, he gives me this hurt look every time I move away, is that ok? Or is bad ?
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Did you create another identity, or are you actually the Original Poster? It says you have just one post...

ETA... I'm just confused... lol
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Did you create another identity, or are you actually the Original Poster? It says you have just one post...

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I had to create another Id because I couldn't access the browser and I tried to reset my password and when I tried logging in with the one the adm sent me it wouldn't let me. I gave up on that and just made a new one, since I had more doubts in my mind.
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He gets close to me and lets me pet him, his licking of lips has calmed down a bit and he lets me touch him for a little longer however he still seems tense when I pet him. Like really uptight.
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