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Old 02-11-2015, 09:05 AM
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Unhappy my 5 month old puppy is making his poo in the house!

Hello, I am in need of urgent help please. My boyfriend and I adopted Forrest while he was 2 months old. He has been with us for 3 months. We are doing our best but we cannot teach him to poo or pee outside. He is a jack russell mongrel. We do not know his other race since he was a stray dog, found in a forest sick and wounded. But we guess he has pitbull genes too. So, he is always scared of other people. However too harsh to other animals. We have a balcony at home, like a terrace. We thought he could do his toilet at there. (recently we have thought it is a bad idea bc it smells so bad) And he was getting used to it in there. When he had to pee he went the door and waited for our opening. Then suddenly everything had changed. Now he poos everywhere in house specially to carpet in the living room. We have started to take him outside more than we used to do. He goes out at least 3 time a day. But the point is I think he knows he should not do his toilet at home but he is doing it on purpose. Because one time he pees to foot of our household. He even pees while we are in the room and he does it looking our eyes. We are very tired of cleaning. We do not know what to do. Please help! (also our household saw him while he is eating his poo) Thanks in advance.
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I don't have a lot of time right now to answer, but you have several things going on here. First off--don't scold him for pooping and peeing! That will backfire terrible with this dog. He is not doing this in spite--dogs really are just not THAT smart! He is totally confused right now. Going outside is not a matter of "knowing" better, it is habit. When he pees in front of you--that is submissive peeing because he is scared (he can't help it). So you basically have a very fearful dog, and will need to be patient and kind with him. I"ll attach a sticky with more info on housetraining. There is also a forum area on housetraining, look through the posts there for more info.

https://www.dogforum.com/housetrainin...-how-tos-2135/

https://www.dogforum.com/housetraining/
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Hi,
I'm so glad you've rescued this dog, he's very lucky to have found you. Many people think that dogs know when they've "done wrong", but in truth dogs do not understand the human concept of "right" and "wrong". They understand "safe" and "not safe", and "rewarding" and "not-rewarding". Just because your dog looks you in the eye when he toilets doesn't mean he's challenging you, or being naughty; as pappi said, he's most likely scared and hoping you won't scold him. Most people don't understand dog body language, and that can lead to making many mistakes with dogs.

Please read through the information Pappi has provided, and if you have more questions, don't hesitate to ask.
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thanks for answers really we are trying so hard. these advices will help us. thank you so much. you are completely right. they are just little cute puppies and cannot understand what is true or false. but sometimes when you see poos on carpet you cannot think properly :/ that was one of the times when I wrote paragraph above. Would you mind if I asked more questions? Do you think that his eating poo can be a sign of a disease? Bc today he tried to eat some other animal's poo again at the outside. And after his meal we went for his toilet he didn't do it but he did it while we came home. we are sorry for him it is all our fault I know. He is so confused. We are trying to solve the problem. He is our first dog btw that's why I am so anxious

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Yes, I'm sure every dog owner has had moments when they just can't think properly. Well done on your part, for looking for answers instead of just giving up or being mean to the puppy.

You are welcome to ask as many questions as you need to, that is why we are here. There are some really excellent and experienced people on this board.

It's actually pretty common for dogs to eat poo, and the reasons are not very clear. If you teach him a 'leave it' command, it can help a lot. Here's info on teaching a dog to "Leave It":
https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtu...r-dog-leave-it

http://youtu.be/pEeS2dPpPtA
http://youtu.be/7My9gMIEyiE

Some excellent resources for you to Google are Sophia Yin, Ian Dunbar, Zak George, Kikopup, Dog Star Daily.
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Dia thank you again. Now I will try to make him poo or pee an exact right place at the house while we are not at home. But I want him to poo or pee outside. Is it ok? I mean both of them, at house and outside. Besides, I have been watching kikopup's videos for 2 hours. Do you think I have to get a clicker? Can it make easier to make him learn faster?
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Do you mean you want him to learn to pee/poo in the house when you are gone, and outside when you are home? I think that him having to learn to toilet in two different places depending on where you are might be too difficult a task for him.

You don't have to use a clicker, but many people do find it makes training easier. Have you googled clicker training?
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yes I thought so it is difficult. but both of us, my boyfriend and I, are students and we can only get him out in the morning just before we left and when we get home, in the evening. so at the end he is just a puppy and cannot take his toilet so long. In a situation like this, should I teach him to make his toilet at home only?
Yes I did. And I watched so many videos. I think I'll buy a clicker and try to train him for stay, come etc commands.
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How long are you gone during the day? I can't recall the formula for how long a puppy can hold it (age in months plus 1 or 2--hours?) You can probably find that formula in one of the stickies. If you are only gone for 6 or 7 hours he can probably hold it. Or can you get someone to stop by in the middle of the day and give him a break? Then there should be no issue, if he is trained!

There are a few different reasons why he might eat his poo. Sometimes, if he has been scolded, he might want to get rid of it. Another reason is that his diet is not nourishing enough, or he's not digesting it well (are his poos fairly consistent and not loose?) BTW--if his poops are loose, it is pretty much impossible for him to hold them. Switching to a better food might help both situations a lot. The other reason animals eat poop is because they are bored--make sure he is getting plenty of exercise as well as mental stimulation and attention, when you are home.
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I would highly suggest crate training with this dog, as it sounds like you aren't. Pardon me if it's been mentioned already, I did a quick read through the replies. First, you need to be taking him out much more frequently than three times per day, and you should be HEAVILY praising him with the most wonderful treats imaginable when he potties outside. Have a party with hot dogs. Keep him in the crate anytime you are out of the house, not directly watching him, or don't have him tethered to you on a leash. I don't mean be cooking dinner in the kitchen while he's playing on the floor. I mean really watching him. This means that he won't have an opportunity to sneak off and poop on the carpet without you seeing. If you catch him in the act don't scold him, but distract him and go outside immediately so he can finish. Have a happy party if he goes outside. I would be taking him out every hour to give him the chance to go, perhaps less frequently if he has just gone. You want to give him lots of opportunities to do it right so you can reward him.

Crating him now will help you get his house training down much more quickly, and having a solidly house trained dog will mean you can grant him more freedom in the future without ruining your carpets! He's not being defiant, he's just confused. Also make sure you are cleaning up any accidents with an enzymatic cleaner to get all of the odor out. If he can smell his previous accidents it will make things much, much harder.
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