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Old 08-01-2013, 01:38 PM
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Back to the biting issue I still manage to not be consistent, which I know is obviously my problem. But for example, last night we were at the final puppy obedience class, and Cobber was just wired... like someone plugged him in and flipped the On switch. I took him out to run in between activities, and he actually did his final graduation performance (just a Sit and then a Down, but without treats) perfectly. However, because he was so amped up, he kept latching onto my arm and really grinding his teeth into it, up and down the arm and on the fleshy part of the hand. Like I was a giant bully stick or something. "Leave it!" did nothing, offering a high-value treat did nothing, and I was unable to step away or put him anywhere. It was extremely frustrating and painful.

Meanwhile, today I watched some biting inhibition videos that say there should be only soft mouthing and absolutely no actual teeth-on-flesh by age 5 months! Wow, because Cobber's 4.5 months, so I'm feeling kind of up against a deadline there that we're going to fail.

I think I'm going to set up the x-pen in the livingroom again. I have been letting him have free access to the whole living room with a baby gate to close off the rest of the house. But that doesn't give me enough of an easy step-away or put-away avenue when the biting starts; it's usually too far to the baby gate for there to be an instant connection between his biting and my leaving. If his pen is right there, I can plop him in and turn away from him more quickly. *head smack for not thinking of this sooner*

I'd been using his crate (but with treats and an upbeat voice so no punishment) but some people at the puppy class last night said they actually had success using their crate more as punishment - any mouthing/biting, instant crate with a "no biting!" I just don't want to alienate Cobber from the crate because he's currently very comfortable in his.

Anyway, I had thought things were going well -- he didn't even try to bite me, a whole day entirely bite free, on Tuesday!! -- until classtime last night. Then the video I saw today made it seem like I've pretty much failed because he's still very painful with his biting at almost 5 months.

Conflicted info is sometimes very hard to deal with.
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:01 PM
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Anyway, I had thought things were going well -- he didn't even try to bite me, a whole day entirely bite free, on Tuesday!! -- until classtime last night. Then the video I saw today made it seem like I've pretty much failed because he's still very painful with his biting at almost 5 months.

Conflicted info is sometimes very hard to deal with.
I think that info is more of a guideline, not an exact. Every dog is different. If that is the case, I've also miserably failed. Goose is about 5 months old and still has some pretty painful bites. They've lessened for sure and I can get him to stop pretty easily now (sometimes), but it still happens. it's hard to step away from him quickly in my house because there is no place for baby gates. It's pretty much just one giant room downstairs, and the same upstairs, so I've just been trying to give him a stern NO and then give him something more suitable to chew on. If that doesn't work I just hold him on his side till he calms down. I know a lot of people here don't agree with that method but literally nothing else works with him.
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:41 PM
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I'm also one the Labrador forums (I know not Cobber's breed, but I think it can apply), and over there they say a puppy can continue to be mouthy up till a year!!! I'm think that's going to be the case with Tessa. She's 6 months exactly now and still likes to launch herself onto my (and for some reason only MY) arms when she wants something. Obviously I've negatively reinforced it, but dang it hurts and when I'm hurt I'm kind of inclined to say something.

For time outs in the house I've tied a 6 foot leash to the dining table to clip her. Once she's in 'Time Out' I set the oven timer and walk away. I tried ouch, Putting her in a crate/xpen, and leaving the scene and going in my own room for a self 'time out' nothing really worked well, but this so far is working.

I like the fact that she's tied to the dining room table because that way she's still in the same room (or close to, we have a sort of open concept) so I can watch what the little devil is doing and she can see all the fun that I'm having while she's in time out. I also tell her 'Time Out' when she bites (no bite just wasn't working) and then get her to come over to the table and clip her there.

Once the timer beeps, I walk over (no emotion), usually say something like "are you sorry?" she usually licks my hand and then we get a toy and play. If she bites again I repeat. It's helped quite a bit.

Outside I have one of those screw thingies with rope, if she bites she gets hooked up to that. I've also upped her walks, so she's a little more physically tired during the day.

If this doesn't fix the problem, I'm seriously considering getting all her teeth removed during her spay next week; jks......maybe
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I should try the leash thing, that's a great idea.
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Jessie is now 9 months and in the morning still mouths me showing teeth but doesnt nip or hurt me
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I did the "time out!" thing last night, set the timer for 1 minute, then Cobber was polite as could be when I invited him back to play and offered a treat Doesn't mean it'll work next time, but it proves to me that I need to be way more diligent about it! What prompted this was him running up and clamping onto my bare ankle - boy, did I ever do a realistic "Yelp!" That hurt like all get out. He had been playing with a ball until my ankle suddenly must've looked a lot more enticing...

Cute little turd!
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Just make sure your consistent with the rules. Biting mommy=Immediate time out; don't let him munch on you one minute, then the next punish him for it; or let him get away with it for a few minutes one time and immediately put him in the next. If that makes sense at all, it's the best I can do without a second cup of coffee
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Just make sure your consistent with the rules. Biting mommy=Immediate time out; don't let him munch on you one minute, then the next punish him for it; or let him get away with it for a few minutes one time and immediately put him in the next. If that makes sense at all, it's the best I can do without a second cup of coffee
It makes perfect sense, and I really need to be better about the "not one bit" part. I tend to be more lenient at certain times than others and I know that sends a mixed message.

Thanks to all! I know this isn't my thread (sorry AnnaSunflower for the hijack) and I know everyone's been very patient with my inability to stay consistent with Cobber through his phases with this biting stuff. I can be totally consistent with other things -- I always make him sit and wait for a release word before he can enter or leave our house -- but this biting stuff always seems to catch me by surprise at the most inopportune times for dealing with it (like out in the middle of a field or during a puppy class).
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I've been reading this thread and wondering when Dany would start loosing puppy teeth. She is now over 4 months old after all. Well it finally happened this morning! Dany happened to be going to the vet later that day so I shared the good news. The vet chuckled and informed me that Dany already has half of her adult teeth in!

I had been watching for her teething to start for weeks- I can't believe I missed it! Clearly I had no idea what I was looking for whoops!
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I've been reading this thread and wondering when Dany would start loosing puppy teeth. She is now over 4 months old after all. Well it finally happened this morning! Dany happened to be going to the vet later that day so I shared the good news. The vet chuckled and informed me that Dany already has half of her adult teeth in!

I had been watching for her teething to start for weeks- I can't believe I missed it! Clearly I had no idea what I was looking for whoops!
Some dogs dont get distressed or bothered with teething My jessie didnt
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